Vanishing Stability of 4WD's

[broadnorfolk]

Re: Vanishing Stability of 4WD\'s

Fairy Nuff...

basic problem is too much (heavy) glass too high up on a porportionately narrow wheelbase - when the first people movers came out (Renault Espace?) they were always the ones to stay well clear of anywhere near a roundabout as drivers came in too fast started rolling and had to (over) correct rapidly.

There is also the factor of the mentality of people who feel that they need to drive a vehicle much larger than most others. A lot of older drivers seem to be buying them on the grounds of "safety", having previously been involved in accidents. What they fail to take into account is that the accidents were due to their negligent driving - the result being a poor driver in a vehicle they cannot control which will cause more damage when it is involved in the next smash.

On the other hand you have the monkeys who feel that a vehicle is a weapon, the bigger the better. Unfortunately this attitude is becoming increasingly prevalent - I alternate between a very old volvo estate and a volkswagen polo - it's very noticeable how much more space you get given on the road in the volvo...

Apologies to responsible 4x4 owners...

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[sailbadthesinner]

Re: Vanishing Stability of 4WD\'s

4 by 4s Off roaders are not safer to my mind
consider stopping distances for instances

same price merc will outstop any off road four by four
with the exception of newe merc off road and new BMW either which i have not driven

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[Ohdrat]

Re: Vanishing Stability of 4WD\'s

If you really need a 4x4 get a tractor

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[BrendanS]

Re: Vanishing Stability of 4WD\'s

Find me a submersible sportscar, and I'd happily take up the option (and don't even think of bringing up the Lotus Esprit/James Bond thing)

You can't drive tractors on motorways, and they tend to piss off other drivers on main roads in case you hadn't noticed

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[Ohdrat]

Re: Vanishing Stability of 4WD\'s

Sorry forgot about the Motorway thing.. we don't have them up here.. dual carriageway if your lucky and half the time it's a single track with sheep all over the place!/forums/images/icons/laugh.giffancy some mutton?

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[BarryH]

Re: Vanishing Stability of 4WD\'s

Case in point. The merc and BMW are not "off roaders" More fashion statements. Saw one of those BMW things get stuck on a grass bank today. As far as the stability of 4x4's go. Its not the vehicle thats the problem, its the drivers. A lot of people that slag of 4x4's don't know how to use one properly and therefore cant drive them properly.

As for the fuel thing, my Range Rover gives better MPG than a friends BMW 5 series. His car is 4 years old, mine is 20 years old.

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[Peppermint]

Re: I\'ve had 3 Discoveries over 12 years.

Am I compensating for something? Well apart from the enormous size of my wedding tackle no.

4 X 4 have improved in drivability out of all recognition. Yes they require a different technique but with all the bells an whistles to aid stability and breaking it's quite easy for an ordinary person to keep one on the road.

Why buy one? Well i've got seven cars so it's a question of horses for courses. When the kids were younger we could load lots of kit into it and vanish into the winter alps without worrying to much. I've never felt old enough for a Volvo or a Merc and when I had a BMW 530 touring it was to nice to sling outboards in the back.

I don't have a Porche though Ken. Well not any more.

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[milltech]

Why ruin a good vehicle?

Everybody knows that tall narrow things fall over more easily than short wide things, why do they have to wreck a car to show us that? Who is surprised?



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[Bergman]

Re: Vanishing Stability of 4WD\'s

I think you are probably right.

I don't have a 4x4 now but when I was happy, I mean single, I used to go hill-rallying in a Land Rover.

We used to go places you'd think twice about walking and I only ever saw two go over.

My favourite trick was sledging - find a nice snowy hillside get to the top and set off down. Apply brakes and see how far you could go - great fun.

Suspect clue in the original post is "old Range Rover" knackered springs and shockers will not exactly help stability.

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