The best -place to observe the Hamble Scramble

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Should boaters not have an expectation of a certain amount of privacy? I'd need to be re-assured that you were filming more as a form of descriptive artistry than intrusive exploitation...

As he's pointed out, re. the steering-sail versus Beaulieu River threads, Dylan knows what makes entertaining reading & watching...

...I can't think of anything funnier than his type of film, showing a few hundred Brits trying to race in a constricted channel, all keenly, hopefully noisily & furiously trying to get ahead.

Maybe contrast it with the same place an hour or two later when it's relatively calm and unspoilt? (Ignoring Fawley etc.)

I still can't hear Hamble Scramble without thinking of eggs. :rolleyes:
 

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If you want to see a bit of conflict, tuck yourself in just north of the south cardinal at the end of the spit. You'll see the raggies getting their sails up, mobos opening the throttle and you'll get thrown about a bit from the mobos cutting the cardinal and coming down Southampton water too - something for everyone...
 

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yarmouth harbour whats the big attraction

Hamble Scramble ?? What of the Exbury Egg on your Beaulieu jaunt?

Every bank holiday always the big rush to yarmouth, boats booking way in advance, boats waiting outside for a space or cancelation, for what a ferry port, half dozen shops, and a couple of pubs. i dont get it
 

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Every bank holiday always the big rush to yarmouth, boats booking way in advance, boats waiting outside for a space or cancelation, for what a ferry port, half dozen shops, and a couple of pubs. i dont get it

+1, the grotesque prices demanded by the zombified inbreeds are only outshone by the excruciating absence of entertainment. The six-fingered pockmarked hand scuttling over the bar towards your wallet is not a deformity but an evolutionary adaptation to serve the intense greed of the quasi-human "islanders".
It's the only yacht haven where you are strongly advised to carry your 2-stroke outboard on a run ashore...in case you are surrounded and need to cut your way out of the gathering throng of drooling throwbacks, a few coins will distract them as you sprint for the safety of the marina. Be strong we can do this, just STICK TOGETHER!
 

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+1, the grotesque prices demanded by the zombified inbreeds are only outshone by the excruciating absence of entertainment. The six-fingered pockmarked hand scuttling over the bar towards your wallet is not a deformity but an evolutionary adaptation to serve the intense greed of the quasi-human "islanders".
It's the only yacht haven where you are strongly advised to carry your 2-stroke outboard on a run ashore...in case you are surrounded and need to cut your way out of the gathering throng of drooling throwbacks, a few coins will distract them as you sprint for the safety of the marina. Be strong we can do this, just STICK TOGETHER!


that is a beautiful bit of prose..... worthy of the saintly Des
 

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dont start me off on beaullieu
went down in a freinds rib last year tried to stop off for a pee for 5 mins and the theiving b------stds wanted £7 that is taking the p---s
 

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Every bank holiday always the big rush to yarmouth, boats booking way in advance, boats waiting outside for a space or cancelation, for what a ferry port, half dozen shops, and a couple of pubs. i dont get it

B...b...b...but I have been told that Yarmouth is a beautiful, unspoiled harbour, left much as it would have been when trading schooners lined its quays and be-guernseyed fisherman cutched their nets. What could possibly be less artificial than this?

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Why, it's practically identical to this.

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B...b...b...but I have been told that Yarmouth is a beautiful, unspoiled harbour, left much as it would have been when trading schooners lined its quays and be-guernseyed fisherman cutched their nets. What could possibly be less artificial than this?

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Why, it's practically identical to this.

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that is outragous..

you push the good manners of the average solentoid to the very limits of forebearance


having said that - about ten years ago I passed through there on a ferry and caught a bus to Bembridge.

It was gaffers weekend - and it was a wonderful scene or merrymaking, debauchery, music, red faces and much alcohol

it was bloody good fun and worth going there just to take a few snaps

hopefully without infringing on the HR legislation

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nothing has changed then the robbing, piracy, and theiving still continues, only this day and age they use a modern thing called a till to put the money in.
 

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+1, the grotesque prices demanded by the zombified inbreeds are only outshone by the excruciating absence of entertainment. The six-fingered pockmarked hand scuttling over the bar towards your wallet is not a deformity but an evolutionary adaptation to serve the intense greed of the quasi-human "islanders".
It's the only yacht haven where you are strongly advised to carry your 2-stroke outboard on a run ashore...in case you are surrounded and need to cut your way out of the gathering throng of drooling throwbacks, a few coins will distract them as you sprint for the safety of the marina. Be strong we can do this, just STICK TOGETHER!
And still they come...
 

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near the south cardinal.

as other have said, mobos opening up too soon, yachts hoisting sail, and if you're really lucky as happened a few weeks ago a knob of an OOD sets a dinghy course right across the busiest bit of the channel.

Yes, we saw that. One word for it: Genius.
 

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Would suggest visitors pontoon near Hamble point. usually busiest from about 9 till 11 once people have had a chance to get up, shower, breakfast etc.

You will be able to see people leaving Marinas and out to the Cardinals but minimum chance of being hit if you're moored meaning you can focus on filming. Do def come back and look though, even mid week. Today was glorious, no wind but quiet. A total contrast.

Very tempted to make a banner and put " Please respect my HR rights and don't film me unless you're planning on making me look good"
 
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it just the pressure of bodies, boats and money in the Solent.

A modest trip around our lovely island helps to remind you that there are lots of places you can escape from the crowds.

AT THE Moment.....but it ai'nt likely to remain so for much longer in the future.The pressure of human expansion is effecting all aspects of our life right down the the eco structure & the weather.......that's what global warming is all about.The shear number of people is effecting our Planet & it is'nt just confined to the south coast.

The Solent & the river Hamble & the area around is what I am familiar with & if that can be sacrificed as it is being then no where is safe,you lot need to wake up!
You might be happy to exploit these places for your own personal gain now Dylan but when the wild life & environment is destroyed round where you live you will be singing a different tune.
 
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I've not reached my 50th birthday (yet!), so I'll have to take your word for it, but, above the M27 road bridge what development is there that you can blame on the boating community? There is the boatyard immediately above the bridge (and I gather Fareham Council turned down a planning application from them a year ago to build some static "caravans"). That is it isn't it? Can't think of anything else.

I am not blaming the boating community,just the shear number of people flooding into the area.That is what is destroying it systematically.
 

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AT THE Moment.....but it ai'nt likely to remain so for much longer in the future.The pressure of human expansion is effecting all aspects of our life right down the the eco structure & the weather.......that's what global warming is all about.The shear number of people is effecting our Planet & it is'nt just confined to the south coast.

The Solent & the river Hamble & the area around is what I am familiar with & if that can be sacrificed as it is being then no where is safe,you lot need to wake up!
You might be happy to exploit these places for your own personal gain now Dylan but when the wild life & environment is destroyed round where you live you will be singing a different tune.


Thanks for the lecture....

HS2 is coming very close to my house, newtowns and ecoparks are springing up all around where I live. the face of the land has been changed forever.

I am 59 now and plan to enjoy every bit of the natural environment I can while the world carries on breeding itself into an overcowded hell

I can do nothing at all about the birth rate across this planet

I am confident that I can find a place on this island where I can sail my boat without the benefit of a thousand passing mobo washes - a place where I can drop a hook, put on a brew and pick up a good book where the only thing that pieces the peace is the sound of water on saltmarch and the call of the curlew.

The wave of marine clutter really is at its most extreme around the Solent. The top of the Alde, Butley and I am sure several places on the West coast will see me out for the next 20 years or so. The solent is a crowded place and an aquired taste - and nothing wrong with that at all.

My son is a dinghy sailor and he loves to bash around the buoys and head for the bar afterwards.

Horses for courses.

The way Monty develops his river is up to him and the Solenites seem quite haoppy to let him do whatever he wants - actually lots of them praise him for it

D

PS - thanks for suggesting that KTL is a commercially viable operation - I can assure you that I lose massively more than I ever make flogging a few DVDs to small boat sailors and penning the odd column in a yachty mag. I do apologise if my lifestyle upsets you in some way.
 
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I, too, knew the Hamble 50 years ago, when Mercury was a hulk moored in the river, rather than a marina and you could walk past Manor Farm to the river by parking up in Church Lane in Botley, rather than driving (nearly) all the way to Bursledon and back again.

In fact here I am, undergoing training in Dylan-baiting, in a photo taken from Warsash with Fairey Marine in the background, in the mid-sixties :)

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In those days you must have been one of the biggest menaces on the river jhr :).From what I can remember motor boating used to be a much more sedate affair then & mainly it was just old MTB's moored out in the river or as house boats on the banks,Happy days!

My old man could never have afforded a speed boat but then you did'nt need money to be able to enjoy yourself.I spent endless days poking about birds nesting exploring swapping old air guns or doing up old motor bikes.While you were doing that I was probably setting fire to the three foot high ants nests you used to get up the higher reaches of the Hamble.It was a unique wonderful environment.
 
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