The best -place to observe the Hamble Scramble

[Nicholas123]

Thanks for the lecture....

HS2 is coming very close to my house, newtowns and ecoparks are springing up all around where I live. the face of the land has been changed forever.

I am 59 now and plan to enjoy every bit of the natural environment I can while the world carries on breeding itself into an overcowded hell

I can do nothing at all about the birth rate across this planet

I am confident that I can find a place on this island where I can sail my boat without the benefit of a thousand passing mobo washes - a place where I can drop a hook, put on a brew and pick up a good book where the only thing that pieces the peace is the sound of water on saltmarch and the call of the curlew.

The wave of marine clutter really is at its most extreme around the Solent. The top of the Alde, Butley and I am sure several places on the West coast will see me out for the next 20 years or so. The solent is a crowded place and an aquired taste - and nothing wrong with that at all.

My son is a dinghy sailor and he loves to bash around the buoys and head for the bar afterwards.

Horses for courses.

The way Monty develops his river is up to him

D

PS - thanks for suggesting that KTL is a commercially viable operation - I can assure you that I lose massively more than I ever make flogging a few DVDs to small boat sailors.

Well like you I plan to spend what little time is left enjoying the few remaining places that I know about but because I come from round here & am seeing something priceless destroyed I feel that I have got to speak out & do what ever I can to uphold the quality of the natural environment not just the endless increase in human expansion.It comes down to quality as opposed to quantity.
It is just a tragedy that our Politicians don't see it in order to preserve something unique for future generations.
Maybe I'll see you in some of those remoter places Dylan but expect another lecture

 

[Salty John]

Quick cartoon.....

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[doug748]

.....I would like to...... run her aground.......somewhere
D

I would like to say that putting your boat on the mud in 2ft of water would be very unsporting. A bit like shooting sitting birds.

On another but related tack.
I used to moor on a narrow river with an extensive flat drying bank and a 6kt speed limit. When reckless speed boats met it at 20 kts I found it curiously satisfactory. The Germans have a word for it, I regret it does me no credit at all.

 

[JumbleDuck]

I would like to say that putting your boat on the mud in 2ft of water would be very unsporting. A bit like shooting sitting birds.

Perhaps he could borrow a set of Pembroke sails to hoist while he's there.

 

[dylanwinter]

so can I park her keels in here

if so, what is the bottom like?

can I walk ashore

 

[prv]

so can I park her keels in here

if so, what is the bottom like?

The further towards the bottom of that picture the better, I reckon, or possibly even a smidge further south still. By the time they're in the marked channel they've mostly sorted out who is ahead of who; it's in the entrance by the south cardinal that they're all jostling around.

I've not encountered the bottom on that side, and the chart doesn't say, but I would guess it's probably muddy gravel/shingle.

Pete

 

[dylanwinter]

The further towards the bottom of that picture the better, I reckon, or possibly even a smidge further south still. By the time they're in the marked channel they've mostly sorted out who is ahead of who; it's in the entrance by the south cardinal that they're all jostling around.

I've not encountered the bottom on that side, and the chart doesn't say, but I would guess it's probably muddy gravel/shingle.

Pete

I was thinking of pulling in behind the bank for friday night or will it be packeroons

 

[colhel]

my advice would be to take a good book and don't expect too much excitement

 

[dylanwinter]

my advice would be to take a good book and don't expect too much excitement

always have a good book on board

this one is a most excellent read

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hack-Goes-West-Horseback-Oregon/dp/1905523688

 

[Birdseye]

Dylan

I am a little concerned about your approach. It smacks of voyeurism and exploiting people whose diaries are less flexible than your own. You have made your life-style choice to help make a living out of a hobby; please allow others to make theirs, and don't forget they may have less options to choose the time and place of their sailing activities.

There has to be two alternatives here. Either Sarabande's post is a really quite subtle piece of humour or conversely, Sarabande works for HMRC and has had a humour bypass. Question is - which?

Dylan. If you want something really quite funny to watch, we are thinking of selling spectator tickets for the club launch. On a really good season we can get the club trolley with commodore and his boat aboard off the end of the slip and into the mud, Inevitably that requires at least 6 managers to supervise the one sweaty member who is trying to retrieve the situation. And of course there are the usual memkber whose engine fails just as he leaves the trolley, and two years ago one who sank the same day.

 

[prv]

I was thinking of pulling in behind the bank for friday night or will it be packeroons

Ah, I see.

I wasn't even aware that creek existed. Certainly I've never noticed anybody anchored there, though on the other hand I've never looked.

According to the chart (or the Navionics webapp, all I have available at the office) it dries 6 metres or so, so I don't think you're going to be getting Harmony very far up there.

Pete

 

[dylanwinter]

should not need to

Ah, I see.

I wasn't even aware that creek existed. Certainly I've never noticed anybody anchored there, though on the other hand I've never looked.

According to the chart (or the Navionics webapp, all I have available at the office) it dries 6 metres or so, so I don't think you're going to be getting Harmony very far up there.

Pete

she draws 90cm

so I do not need much and if I can find a flattish bit of shingle there it could be a very comfortable place to stop with the chance of an evening walk without messing with the dinghy

so has anyone ever used it?

D

that aside, if it is a cold night then maybe some lekkie would be nice - if so - where should we pay for a pontoon and power

 

[jac]

The further towards the bottom of that picture the better, I reckon, or possibly even a smidge further south still. By the time they're in the marked channel they've mostly sorted out who is ahead of who; it's in the entrance by the south cardinal that they're all jostling around.

I've not encountered the bottom on that side, and the chart doesn't say, but I would guess it's probably muddy gravel/shingle.

Pete

If Dylan is filming on Saturday though, the confusion will be going out of the river, not coming in, hence suggestion for visitors moorings near the mouth.

 

[Ex-SolentBoy]

Dylan, what has happened to you?

First you want gears on a bike.
Now you want to pay for a pontoon and power for your boat.
Then you want to film a mass boating event but not for the purpose of subsequently decrying it.

What happened to candles and flower pots?
What happened to the beauty of mud?
What happened to sleeping bags and wooly hats?

You have spoiled my image of you as a salt of the earth BBC leftie hack.
All of this behaviour has made me realise you are just like most people.
How disappointing.

 

[dylanwinter]

Dylan, what has happened to you?

First you want gears on a bike.
Now you want to pay for a pontoon and power for your boat.
Then you want to film a mass boating event but not for the purpose of subsequently decrying it.

What happened to candles and flower pots?
What happened to the beauty of mud?
What happened to sleeping bags and wooly hats?

You have spoiled my image of you as a salt of the earth BBC leftie hack.
All of this behaviour has made me realise you are just like most people.
How disappointing.

when in Rome....

 

[jac]

when in Rome....

Rome!

What did they ever do for us?

 

[flaming]

Rome!

What did they ever do for us?

Walk ashore pontoons, electricity....