The best -place to observe the Hamble Scramble

[dylanwinter]

I am planning to film the famous Hamble Scramble this bank holiday weekend

I shall embrace the whole experience

I would like to drop a hook, run her aground or pick up a mooring somewhere

I assume Monday night or Sunday morning would be a good time

any suggestions gratefully received about timing and positioning

Monday highwater is about 4.00 in the afternoon

D

 

[gregcope]

From experience Hamble spit is flat, and just outside.

I am sure on a BH someone will get stuck on it.

Or do you want to be inside the Hamble?

 

[[2068]]

Returning, there is generally no scramble.

Saturday morning might be more interesting. Ashore South of Hamble Point would get you a sense of the numbers.
Or afloat near the East Cardinal if you wanted to see some motor boat wakes, but there is nowhere to moor or stop, and you will probably be run over by something and sunk.

 

[dylanwinter]

Returning, there is generally no scramble.

Saturday morning might be more interesting. Ashore South of Hamble Point would get you a sense of the numbers.
Or afloat near the East Cardinal if you wanted to see some motor boat wakes, but there is nowhere to moor or stop, and you will probably be run over by something and sunk.

thank you

anyone else agree that saturday morning is the time to see it

I would like to be on the water if I can

and I would like to be able to film some people being impatient and getting stressed as I understand that is an essential part of the whole experience

I do hope that it is not a damp squib and lives up to its billing

D

 

[DJE]

But that's not until September.

http://www.royal-southern.co.uk/Events/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/1180/Hamble-Scramble

 

[Talulah]

Saturday morning. Tie up on Hamble Town Quay. With a bit of luck there will be the dinghys tacking back and forth to add some colour. (Both visual and audible.)
You'll have a good viewpoint to watch the mayhem although being upstream of Hamble Point Marina you'll miss out on those.

 

[sarabande]

and I would like to be able to film some people being impatient and getting stressed as I understand that is an essential part of the whole experience

Dylan

I am a little concerned about your approach. It smacks of voyeurism and exploiting people whose diaries are less flexible than your own. You have made your life-style choice to help make a living out of a hobby; please allow others to make theirs, and don't forget they may have less options to choose the time and place of their sailing activities.

 

[flaming]

thank you

anyone else agree that saturday morning is the time to see it

I would like to be on the water if I can

and I would like to be able to film some people being impatient and getting stressed as I understand that is an essential part of the whole experience

I do hope that it is not a damp squib and lives up to its billing

D

I think you'll be disappointed to be honest...

Last August bank holiday on Saturday morning I even managed to persuade a big Mobo to let me go first at the fuel dock as I only wanted 20 liters and he wanted 500. All done with smiles, waves, and good old British "after you!"

The volume of traffic can be impressive though, there are a couple of moorings just inside the entrance that would give a good view of that, though I don't think they are visitor moorings.

 

[dylanwinter]

Dylan

I am a little concerned about your approach. It smacks of voyeurism and exploiting people whose diaries are less flexible than your own. You have made your life-style choice to help make a living out of a hobby; please allow others to make theirs, and don't forget they may have less options to choose the time and place of their sailing activities.

Most intersting perspective


As a film maker I think that the Hamble Scramble is as much a part of the Solent as the hovercrafts, the birds or these lovely boats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBbY8NqCBIA

I wonder if you would like to post a list of other things that should not be filmed


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hagiography

 

[sarabande]

I am certain you should be allowed to point your cameras at any person you choose, providing it does not contravene the appropriate HR legislation. Should boaters not have an expectation of a certain amount of privacy ?

I'd need to be re-assured that you were filming as a form of descriptive artistry than intrusive exploitation of people whose freedom is more curtailed than yours.

 

[PhillM]

Id agree about Saturday morning. Sailors seem to get going earlier than the mobos but with their superior speed, we all end up in about the same place at the same time.

Most confused area - Port Hamble fuel berth - boats going in all directions and all trying to keep clear of each other.

Most aggressive area - end of the channel when sailors are getting sails up and mobos open up the throttle. Wash ... need I say more.

Most stressed - watching the charter crews getting out - the Flexi-Sail lot always seem to be in a flap.

But to be honest, once you have done it a few times, its very much business as usual and not really a problem.

For best footage I'd suggest hanging around the fuel berth, then getting on to the mid river pontoon opposite the harbor masters office - the tide around the last pile / preferred channel marker, always seems to draw you in to it. Add to that several boats abreast and it might make good telly.


One request, please do make sure you capture some of the lovelyness of the Hamble. It really is a great place and one worth exploring fully and not just taking the p155 of.

 

[Angele]

Saturday is also the start of one of the RORC races - Cowes to Le Havre. Why not position yourself near the start line and film that one? Not sure what time the racing starts, but I'm guessing someone on here knows.

 

[Blueboatman]

Most intersting perspective


As a film maker I think that the Hamble Scramble is as much a part of the Solent as the hovercrafts, the birds or these lovely boats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBbY8NqCBIA

I wonder if you would like to post a list of other things that should not be filmed


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hagiography

Another 5 years of Mr Dylans voyeuristic putdowns all over the forums every day. Oh Gawwwd ( As they might say in Hamble). Sorry 'bout that..


Just be blurry grateful that the Solent is empty at other times..Sort of uninvited guest it does seem to me that you are at times-sorry! ( thats two sorrys)

Just go get a job and a pension and stop relying on 'us' to drive your thinghy forward quite so relentlessly perhaps? ( tongue in cheek) But...No one else does it quite so relentlessly..I could ignore, i could refrain, but as you are gonna be here every day for the next five years, and for editorial balance like, nope! Sorry ( third time today!)

 

[Nicholas123]

Don't forget to sail up to Bursledon & show what a bloody mess of the river has been made there.I went back a few months ago & it just looked like one big horrible parking lot.
Fifty Sixty years ago when I grew up there it was a wonderful place

Campaign for a reduction in the human population Dylan,it's the only way we can hope that future generations will know anything of the wonder of nature.Either that or we all need to move to the East coast or Scotland or just about anywhere where real quality can be found

 

[jhr]

I don't think you can guarantee that there will be mayhem on any given day but I agree that the exodus on Saturday morning is more likely to deliver results than the trickle back home on Sunday afternoon. Hamble Spit's probably as good a place as any to dry out. As an alternative, the entrance to Cowes can provide some entertainment, particularly when racing has finished for the day; I'm not sure where you could sit, however, and the Harbourmaster's RIB has (or had; I haven't been in for a while) a habit of blocking half the channel by sitting sideways across it, making life even more difficult

As mentioned by others, do visit the upper reaches of the Hamble, above Bursledon Bridge. Once you're past the M27, things calm down as you make your way through Upper Hamble Country Park. Eventually the river divides; one branch ends up at Botley Mills, where the Romans used to bring stuff by barge, the other ends up at the Horse and Jockey in Curbridge (http://www.thehorseandjockeycurbridge.co.uk/Tide Times Horse and Jockey Curbridge.html). Botley is a pretty enough village, but there's not a huge amount to do and see unless you want to go Footballers' Wives spotting at Reggina's, so in this case, and except for a short detour to look at Fairthorne Manor, my advice would be to keep turning right .

The lower Hamble is one massive boat park but the upper reaches are a revelation. Very tidal, however, so it's definitely Duck Punt territory.

One final word, from the Harbourmaster's website:

There is no Rule against sailing in the River but the prudent yachtsman will have his motor instantly available and lower sails when the fairway becomes overcrowded. It is unseamanlike for a yacht or dinghy to hoist a spinnaker in the congested waters above the Warsash Maritime Academy.

 

[dylanwinter]

Another 5 years of Mr Dylans voyeuristic putdowns all over the forums every day. Oh Gawwwd ( As they might say in Hamble). Sorry 'bout that..


Just be blurry grateful that the Solent is empty at other times..Sort of uninvited guest it does seem to me that you are at times-sorry! ( thats two sorrys)

Just go get a job and a pension and stop relying on 'us' to drive your thinghy forward quite so relentlessly perhaps? ( tongue in cheek) But...No one else does it quite so relentlessly..I could ignore, i could refrain, but as you are gonna be here every day for the next five years, and for editorial balance like, nope! Sorry ( third time today!)

Jolly good stuff

thanks for caring

I was invited to the solent by the HYC - is that any good to you or is there some sort of official inviting committee I have to ask first

perhaps you could form one and police the borders of the Solent to keep the unnaproved and uninvited out

I assume you were invited too at some stage or is it all about who your father was?

do I get a special burgee if I get approved?

that would be nice


have been told that cameras will be banned form the 2014 round the island race to protect the privacy of the competitors.

Essex does have several official invitatonal committees to stop the unwashed from visting thge Blackwater and Colne.

Be sure to apply to the Tollebury Guild of Marsh pirates for a permit before coming to West Mersea

strangely enough I have been asked by the Scottish Tourist Board not to film any rain while I am there and never, ever mention midges for fear of unbalancing the films.

Please feel free to not look at any films at all and focus instead on threads about anchors, flags and old MFVs

I do apologise for the length of the threads. They do take me surprise - i posted something really interesting a using a steering sail and it sank like a stone - whereas the high posting fumites obviously prefer something that has little to do with making a boat sail well.

D

I did look up HR legistlation covering filming - a few links would be most useful

 

[Searush]

(snip) I have been asked by the Scottish Tourist Board not to film any rain while I am there and have been told that cameras will be banned form the 2014 round the island race.

D

So you won't be able to film at all in Scotland & someone will be confiscating & managing several thousand mobile phones for the duration of the RTIR? Not sure how some competitors will cope without their Nav system & Emergency coms tho.

 

[flaming]

Saturday is also the start of one of the RORC races - Cowes to Le Havre. Why not position yourself near the start line and film that one? Not sure what time the racing starts, but I'm guessing someone on here knows.

1000.

I for one would love to see a KTL style video of that.

 

[dylanwinter]

1000.

I for one would love to see a KTL style video of that.

the experts with the ribs will be out in force making a brilliant job of filming it for the sponsors and I assume it will be all over youtube

It will be taken as read that they have been invited by the Solent approval committee, will be flying the appropriate burgee, have checked up on the HR legislation, been filming in a spirit of artistry and been mindful of the privacy of the sailors.

D

 

[Angele]

1000.

I for one would love to see a KTL style video of that.

There you go Dylan. It is even a civilised start time. Unlike the RTIR.

If you are trying to catch the essence of what the Solent is about, then you have to throw in a bit about the racing scene. Better that than just moan about how busy one stretch of the busiest river on the Solent is for a couple of hours on a Saturday morning.