St Peter Port Woes

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Stopped as usual in St Peter Port on our way home last week from S Brittany (2 days longer than intended to try an sail ONE leg home at least on one tack...), not too impressed this year.

Woe Number One:-

Last year the water taxi was hit and miss, very unreliable, when we asked what the latest time we could get a ride back from the restaurant was we were told 'not sure if we will be about tonight or not, if you don't find us one of the harbour people will take you'. Since our return would coincide with the night rush into the marina we pumped up the inflatable rather than risk a long wait. We told Guernsey Tourist people on their boat show stand that if they licence a service it has to be available or don't bother and we'll use our dinghy, they said they had had numerous complaints and were looking for a new operator. This year it seemed like a new taxi service (different boat certainly) but after last year we used our own dinghy until we could be sure. Then when our departure was delayed a tide and we had deflated our tender we discover no taxi - apparently they just packed it all in.

Woe Number Two:-

Why was there a convention of the local drunks (up to 10) held daily on the north wall of the marina virtually the whole of every day we were there? The stench was sickening, no sign of the police either.

Woe Number Three:-

Rubbish piled up on the pontoon (outside ones) left by a departing sailing school boat remained there several days, only removed after I asked since rotten food was being blown around making it slippery.

Woe Number Four:-

Why can I not retrieve voicemail on my mobile nor send texts via GY Telecom - this is a business Island surely I cannot be the only one who finds this annoying, especially contrasted with the French system which is like being in the UK.

Woe Number Five:-

Why is VAT free so expensive? NASA VHF £250 (without VAT) versus around £200 (INC VAT) on the mainland. Does anyone in Guernsey buy from these people?

Woe Number Six:-

Walked to St Sampsons and stopped for lunch at Blind O'Reilly's Irish Pub for lunch. This was DISGUSTING, cod chips and peas (how difficult is that?), the fish would have done good duty as stones in the harbour wall, the peas were semi-cooked cheap frozen and the chips hard and dried out. Actually the last time I had food this bad was in Ireland, maybe the same chef.

PRAISE THOUGH:-

For Saltwater Restaurant on the Marina, our fourth visit since they opened and still very good.


Is this just us or did others find St Peter Port standard dropping?


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Certainly Duty Free has always seemed a bit of a joke to me, I couldn't find anything cheaper than Sainsburys at home, but it was a couple of years ago. Same thing in Alderney.

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Once bought a Nikon compact camera there considerably cheaper than the usual suspects back in the UK. And booze (from Bucktrouts????) used be conspicously cheap.

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Marina Corkscrew is cheapest, generic gin in unlabelled bottles (you used to have to bring your own bottles) is £5.99/lt.

Booze and cigs are cheap, but everything else that may be VAT free is not actually cheaper, mostly the price asked is higher than you can find on the mainland even with 17.5% VAT added. Marks & Spencer openly add 5% to their food prices as a Channel Island delivery charge! But to ask £250 for a NASA DSC VHF (which would make it £293.75 if VAT were charged is crazy when the VAT included mainland price is around £200. I bought a Navman 5500i plotter/gps over here for £630 from MES including VAT, in Guernsey it was on sale for £699 so called VAT free (which would make it £821.32 if they had to add the 17.5% VAT. If I lived there I would order everything mail order VAT free from a mainland supplier, so how do these guys stay in business?

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When I lived in France visitors endlessly brought us duty free booze as a gift. I didn't have the heart to tell them it was cheaper in a French supermarket.

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Have to agree with you re the duty free...never bothered in Guernsey always seemed dearer than in UK.

My personal moan is about Sark. My favourite anchorages have been taken over by a rash of mooring buoys. Havre Gosselin for instance is now virtually impossible to anchour in. (I admit 2 years since I went there) so I picked up a buoy and the following morning was charged £12 for the privaledge.

What a rip off, never been back since....don't know if its changed any?

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<<was charged £12 for the privaledge.

What a rip off, never been back since....don't know if its changed any? >>

Not much! If it's guiet I prefer Grand Greve - but if it's fresh I dont mind the security of a buoy (even if last time we were there we chafed 2 out of our three lines, and had ensign and staff stolen)

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The buoys used to be private (only 4 or 5 I think) and the owners from GY got quite uppety if they found anyone using them - but there was then room to anchor. The trouble with buoys is that a) they will be charged for and b) many more people will stay overnight, I like it when they all leave! c) Paying £12 doesn't guarantee a roll free night but it does make you less inclined to move elsewhere if the rolls start!

We carry a length of chain (about 6 or 8ft) to use on buoys without strops like in Alderney where chafe is a serious risk, tied to a warp both ends it can be pulled through the ring and just up over the bow roller.



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We carry a similar length of chain, and lots of olastic hose to muffle it with. Thing was, we turned in in calm weather, so didnt rig it, and at about 03:00 a big scend started running. We left at 05:00, by which time a couple of my lines had suffered from chafe - the final one we had to cut (it was tied directly to the buoy to avoid chafe, and we couldnt rig a slip to take the weight off it). The chain is fine, but denies sleep as the noise of it moving reverberates around an alloy boat like nobodys business. If we need it we shackle (and mouse) it to the ring as this should have less chafe.

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Haven't been there for 3 years - last time they tried (and did) put 2 50ft powerboats aginast us (Finger berth opposite entrance). There was a large surge coming in from the s.e wind, and we said that we didn't think we and the 40 foot Vintage ISOLDE could take the weight. They wouldn't listen. We then put lines ashore to the road side to stop the powerboats surging backwards and forwards, which worked. Harbourmasters kid came back and told us to remove them. We then asked that the powerboats were accomodated outside as it was dangerous - ISOLDS planking was being distorted - No - so I wrote a form asking the harbour to indemnify us against any damage. A few quick words with his boss, and the powerboats were instructed to move. Th einside boat was very understanding - the outside one when into the usual Raggies Stinkies routine - just ignored him.

Have never been back there.

PS where did you get to this year??

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Hear hear, it was also 15% up on last year. The HM took great joy in telling us that strong N Easterlies would keep us all there for a few days but we fooled him and made it eastwards just beforehand! Had some fun getting in there too, visibilty 20mts, we could hear Libenter Buoy, see it on radar but from 30mts could not see it. After a slow approach down the GPS track with radar and electronic plotter we thought we were safely in, then we ran into the fleet of Hobie Cats careering backwards and forwards flat out in the fog!

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France was also considerably more expensive than last year - just in euro terms - €35 per night at treburden plus 6 showers at €2 each! I think Poole town key was cheaper - no matter - it was a bloody good holiday, and 2 weeks between 4 people (eat out every other night) cost £260 each. Makes you feel better after all the fixed costs of running a yacht!!!!!



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Our usual route via Dartmouth, Camaret, Glenan, Houat, then stayed around Quiberon Bay for 10 days or so. Return via Glenan, Concarneau (For the Filets Bleu fireworks), back to Glenan (love it there) then Morgat via Audiene since didn't fancy NW6 through Raz wind against tide. L'Aberwrac'h from Morgat then Trebeurden (aborted Perros in NE5 when we would have run out of tide), St Peter Port and then Poole. We looked out for forum boats but didn't see any and most Brit boats we did see were not especially friendly a trend we have noticed in recent years, more so no we have a French built boat that 'looks' like a French boat unless you see the ensign or GBR on the sails. Were you about? The weather was really good apart from the whole of our return being upwind, the first time we eased sheets was the last 20mls off Poole in the sea breeze on Sunday!

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We stopped at Trebeurden too though our target from L'Aberwrac'h was the buoys off Perros originally (free) then into Perros marina for just one night and a meal ashore, Perros is cheaper but you can get locked in at neaps. We hadn't been to Trebeurden since it first opened and actually stayed an extra day because we quite liked it now it is finished, had quite a good meal at L'Arbri Du Marin too. We are just 2 on board so use on board showers, we anchor a lot and only head in if we need food/water/laundry etc. We carry a home made solar shower (pressurised garden spray plus black poly cover) but this year it was so hot we didn't use it or the on board calorifier in favour of wash/rinse in the sea plus a cold shower on the swim platform to rinse off the salt.

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we spent our hols in Morgat - or rather - anchoring on the wonderfull coast for over a week, then made our way north. (August 2nd to Aug 16) Thought we would turn into a stinkie - but finnaly had a spanking sail from Treguier back to plymouth with an average of 7.8 knots. Sounds like you had a little longer than we did.

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Treburden is a favourite stop despite the price. This year they had a fishermans supper - they served about 15 crevette (a real pile) for €6 - and a great fun evening it was - except that the wail of the local breton music went on rather!

Yes that sunshine - we have a covered cockpit which I have been considering removing partially before going south (pipe dream) - but it was so cool in the cockpit that I am certainly not removing it. I haven't warn oilies since I bought the boat - well occainsionaly one has to reef - don't know why people put up with open cockpits any more.

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What you needed to do was call a local guide and all of these problems could have been eliminated.

Give me ashout next time you arte coming over.

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