Some more stupid questions! Long post.

[tcm]

Re: self made

er - is this his only problem? I think he shiould be in the AC already - every one of them propelled with self-made loo. ! Is it a lack of experience thart prevents us all from joining? Nope - it's the slight lack of £20 mililion bucks. Then we could buy experienced knowalls sailors to stand behind us by the dozen.

Meanwhile, let's make sure that we're all lovely enough to be chosen, cos we'd sure be cheap, eh?

 

[Guest]

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[halcyon]

Re: I think you\'ve lost the plot somewhere!

He is doing Day Skipper !

Problem is that until you do Yacht Master, you do not realise who little you knew with Day Skipper.

Brian

 

[Steve101]

Back to the plot!

I intend to punctuate the DS shorebased with dayskippers practical in June, followed by YM shorbased from September 03 to June 04....after that I take it as it comes. Hopefully I can do the practical on my own boat.

 

[Steve101]

Thanks! Who'd have thought. A bunch of "stupid questions"!

 

[jimi]

You did say it was going tp be a long post though. Top marks for forecast!

Jim

 

[Jeremy_W]

Central paradox

As a newcomer to sailing you don't want to go over 40-foot and picked the Moody 38 as the best of the pack. That's a sound choice for a coastal/cross-Channel family cruiser.

The long-distance Atlantic Circuit sailing you aspire to can be done two ways - low tech or high-tech:

High tech is - water makers; powered autopilots interfacing with waypoints programmed into the GPS via a Pentium5 laptop; powered winches; satellite phone communications domes to stay in touch with the office or track your share portfolio... with big meaty generator(s) to keep it all ticking along

Low tech is - conserving water and keeping rainwater while washing in saltwater; grind your own winches; wind vane steering; noon sights with a handheld GPS [and why not take a sextant sight too?] you'll hear from us when we reach land; and SILENCE when sailing.

Plenty of sailors find the version of mid-tech that suits them.

If you want to go high tech then 38 foot is marginal - certainly smaller than the average ARC yacht. Moody aren't stupid. If they don't offer a piece of kit as an option, quite possibly there isn't room in the engine compartment of the M38 to fit it. You may have to go up ten feet or so to accommodate all that kit. Even if you manage to factory fit all this gear now it could be outmoded when you start serious cruising. So don't rush to fit gear now that you'll have to tear out and replace all too soon.

You'll learn more about whether you prefer high-tech or low-tech sailing as you do it. Nobody can advise you on that. Best wishes with whichever suits you.

 

[Steve101]

Re: Central paradox

I must admit that everything you've listed is on my wish list. (Except water maker.) I was hoping to do it in the Moody 38 as (romantically I know rather than practical) my wife and I have fallen in love with it. The ARC, can I point out, we have no intention of doing until we feel we're ready for. Peter Snow's crossing in YM put the idea in our head and it's sort of a goal for us.

I was saving the Radar/GPS/auto-pilot/plotter debate for a post nearer the date we order. As this technology seems to leap and bound more than others.

Thanks for your post, it was most inciteful!

 

[Jeremy_W]

Re: Central paradox

Check water tank capacity of Moody 38. Check how many gallons/minute your home power shower chucks out. You and SWMBO are probably using a quarter of the Moody's tank capacity every day just for your showers. That's in the sunny Midlands. Now think somewhere HOT! Does the reasoning behind a water maker become clearer? I think we should be told!

 

[philmarks]

Re: Central paradox

Go as high tech as you like, but carry plenty of spares and learn how to service the equipment yourself - it can be very very frustrating when equipment breaks down and you can't get it fixed or have to wait weeks for spares.

It can be very satisfying fixing it too, but remember (and I speak with bruised knuckles here) the larger the boat and the more equipment, then the more time you have to spend fixing and servicing, unless you are fortunate enough to be able to pay to have it all done.

Anyway, it's better than flying as hobby - ever tried heaving- to in a Lear jet?

Good luck, your PMA will get you there!

 

[Steve101]

PMA?????

It's going to take me until I get the boat to understand all these abreviations. What does PMA stand for? Positive Mental Attitude? If it is I'm giving myself a gold star!

 

[Jeremy_W]

Re: Back to reality ?

I'd never noticed that Pauline needed a great deal of encouragement!

 

[JeremyF]

Fantastic post. Its getting a stinkie level of interest. Steve is like a breath of fgresh air blasting through the staid committee rooms of the RYA. Long may enthousiasm rule, and a spirit of can-do!

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[JeremyF]

Re: Back to reality ?

Yeah...whats wrong with an accellerated approach.

Wife bought me a weekend yaching experience present 4 years ago, and via a flotilla and 1/3 share in a Moody 31, and innumerable theoretical and practical courses. Ive got a Bav 34 of my own. But I dont pretend I'm experienced, and am constantly on a quest for knowledge and experience.

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[jimi]

Re: Back to reality ?

Down boy! Down! I'm on Steve's side .. I ordered a new Beneteau 331 on the strength of a one day dinghy sailing course so if anyone knows anything about accelerated learning its me! I also bought a gp14, 2 oppies for the kids, a laser & did my YM theory & Coastal skipper exam within 18 months.So I reckon I know where he's coming from & good on him. I do think he should refrain from personal attacks though.

If you look at the previous post it said you needed 3 boats before he had got the right one. I reckon he probably will have, he's already got one so I'm suggesting anotherr two!

There was no sarcasm intended in my post at all !



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[JimMcMillan]

Do you realise you have got know how to sail the f****** thing

 

[ean_p]

Re: Back to reality ?

well if nothing else you certainly have one of the biggest threads in a long while......th ,th, threads.....yeah thats right.....

 

[Steve101]

Er,really? If you read through the rest of the thread I detail this also. Thanks

 

[squidge]

Hi ya, try having a look at moodyowners.org.uk they have a technical page that you may find of interest.also re A/C , automotive retro fit products are considerably cheeper and less complicated but do require the motor running??
Have you considered a hydrostatic water heater, it means rads instead of ducts but you can have a lovely hot shower.See eberspacher web page.(beware the lorry stuff may be 24v)
Best of luck. S

 

[paulineb]

Re: Back to reality ?

Is that good or bad?

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