Magnum
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Is it possible to enquire prior to submitting a registration form as to whether a name has been taken? Is there an on-line search facility anywhere?
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Small Ships Register
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rich
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It doesn't matter with SSR,you can have the same name ten times over.
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hlb
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I have a pile of spare SSR's All different numbers for same boat. How many would you like.../forums/images/icons/laugh.gif
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Haydn
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MapisM
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Would you be curious anyway...
have a look at <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.itu.int/cgi-bin/htsh/mars/ship_search.sh>this</A>.
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have a look at <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.itu.int/cgi-bin/htsh/mars/ship_search.sh>this</A>.
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Magnum
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Really? I thought that once a specific boat name and port of registration were taken that was it. At least that's what the Princess salesman told me.
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Renegade_Master
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Re: How come?
if you put something obvious into the search like the name "My Way" you get loads of ships named such? thought you could only have one name one ship
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if you put something obvious into the search like the name "My Way" you get loads of ships named such? thought you could only have one name one ship
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BrendanS
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That is part I registration. More complex than Part III which is SSR
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BrendanS
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Re: How come?
There is no one name per one ship rule. I could go out tomorrow and buy 5000 sportsboats and name them all Iditarod. One name only applies if part I registered (in UK, similar registrations in other countries)
That database is for anyone who has registered a radio licence (worldwide) and there will be loads and loads and loads of small boats which have a radio licence (hence on database) but no boat or name registration
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There is no one name per one ship rule. I could go out tomorrow and buy 5000 sportsboats and name them all Iditarod. One name only applies if part I registered (in UK, similar registrations in other countries)
That database is for anyone who has registered a radio licence (worldwide) and there will be loads and loads and loads of small boats which have a radio licence (hence on database) but no boat or name registration
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rich
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Salesmen, what do they know about anything, xxx the money in there pocket!!!!!!!
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Jools_of_Top_Cat
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Re: How come?
Part one also includes ports, You can have two vessels called Mary,
But one would be Mary of Liverpool and the other Mary of Southampton for example......
I think this is correct but will doff my cap if I have missunderstood....
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Part one also includes ports, You can have two vessels called Mary,
But one would be Mary of Liverpool and the other Mary of Southampton for example......
I think this is correct but will doff my cap if I have missunderstood....
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rich
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Re: Would you be curious anyway...
Only one, Hermees..
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Only one, Hermees..
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hlb
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SSR is run by the sea men mission. You fill in the form and finish up with 35ft white boat. Nothing much else. It's very usefull cos means can go to france. Where they take it a gossple. and saves a big £££££££ fine. But other than that, it ain worth the paper it's writen on. Just pay the £12 and get one or three or four! It works for the Frenchites!!
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Haydn
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BrendanS
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Re: How come?
Not quite correct.
You cannot have two boats called 'Mary' on the part I register.
However, if someone has already registered 'Mary', you are quite free to call your boat 'Mary of Portsmouth' as this is a different name. It doesnt' mean it is Mary based in Portsmouth, it's simply a name and could be based in Glasgow.
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Not quite correct.
You cannot have two boats called 'Mary' on the part I register.
However, if someone has already registered 'Mary', you are quite free to call your boat 'Mary of Portsmouth' as this is a different name. It doesnt' mean it is Mary based in Portsmouth, it's simply a name and could be based in Glasgow.
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Magnum
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Re: How come?
BrendanS, that was my understanding too. That being the case how can I check if a name is taken?
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BrendanS, that was my understanding too. That being the case how can I check if a name is taken?
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jimh
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as everyone else has mentioned, part one is the only registration that requires the boat name to be unique. Most finance companies however will require part one, as did mine this time last year, all i did was give three names and hoped for the best. I was told at the time that adding a port to your boat name pretty much gaurenteed your choice - not sure that was true now, but worked for me.... (EMILY of Harwich)
Jim
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BrendanS
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Re: How come?
OK, just to clarify things. You confused everyone by posting about unique names under SSR. This is not the case.
There are different sorts of registration.
Part III (also known as SSR or small ship registration) is what you posted about, and is a very simple registration for boats under 24 metres, and basically provides you with a registration document and a number to stick on hull, that is basic requirement to go to France without receiving a fine. Fill in a form and send off £12 and that's it. Can be many boats registered this way that have same name
Part I registration, is more complex, and proves you have legal ownership of the vessel, and is much more complicated. Often required by marine mortgage companies if you want to take out a mortgage or other loan on the boat. Boat name under Part I has to be unique.
So first, you have to decide what registration you require?
I don't know of anyway to search for a unique part I name. You could call
The Registry Manager
MCA Registry of Shipping and Seamen (RSS)
Tel: 44 (0) 29 20448800
or you can do a preliminary search for names you are interested in on the Mars database already mentioned (Only british vessels are relevant, the ones coded by G. Not infallible, but most boats on Part I register will also have radio licences, and should appear on the database
<hr width=100% size=1>There is no such thing as "fun for the whole family."
OK, just to clarify things. You confused everyone by posting about unique names under SSR. This is not the case.
There are different sorts of registration.
Part III (also known as SSR or small ship registration) is what you posted about, and is a very simple registration for boats under 24 metres, and basically provides you with a registration document and a number to stick on hull, that is basic requirement to go to France without receiving a fine. Fill in a form and send off £12 and that's it. Can be many boats registered this way that have same name
Part I registration, is more complex, and proves you have legal ownership of the vessel, and is much more complicated. Often required by marine mortgage companies if you want to take out a mortgage or other loan on the boat. Boat name under Part I has to be unique.
So first, you have to decide what registration you require?
I don't know of anyway to search for a unique part I name. You could call
The Registry Manager
MCA Registry of Shipping and Seamen (RSS)
Tel: 44 (0) 29 20448800
or you can do a preliminary search for names you are interested in on the Mars database already mentioned (Only british vessels are relevant, the ones coded by G. Not infallible, but most boats on Part I register will also have radio licences, and should appear on the database
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hlb
RIP
Re: How come?
Shit. Do folk actually buy a boat when they aint got any spare money???
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Haydn
Shit. Do folk actually buy a boat when they aint got any spare money???
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BrendanS
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Re: How come?
Some do. I like to own things. Though I did buy the house on tick
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Some do. I like to own things. Though I did buy the house on tick
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Magnum
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Re: How come?
BrendanS, apologies for the confusion, and thank you for your explanation.
It sounds like Part III is all I need, although I would have thought most people would want to prove legal ownership of their vessel. There will be no mortgage or other loan on my boat.
What circumstances might I be required to prove legal ownership?
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BrendanS, apologies for the confusion, and thank you for your explanation.
It sounds like Part III is all I need, although I would have thought most people would want to prove legal ownership of their vessel. There will be no mortgage or other loan on my boat.
What circumstances might I be required to prove legal ownership?
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PhilF
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Re: How come?
LOL
PhilF
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LOL
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