Seagull remorse - does it exist?

[Searush]

No mate they dont they have a stop on them so you cannot swing any of them through 180
Looking at your avatar I really thought you would know about seagulls...
BTW that one i have would be ideal for you Dylan on the back of your slug mate...

Ooops, mine must be broke!

 

[Grumpybear]

Ooops, mine must be broke!

And both mine.

 

[Cap'n Creosote]

Seagulls, noisy? smelly? dripping oil? No,..... not that I've ever noticed.

But then I tow the dinghy down to the beach with a tatty 1960s Landrover.
My seagull seems quiet, clean and respectable in comparison.

 

[underdog]

Seagull remorse

Last June during our 3 week cruise to Scotland I only saw one other seagull being used beside our own which has been converted to 25:1 courtesy of SOS.I hardly think that such sparse use is going to contaminate the West coast of Scotland. So I shall continue to use mine with a free conscience .

 

[dylanwinter]

that is alright then

Last June during our 3 week cruise to Scotland I only saw one other seagull being used beside our own which has been converted to 25:1 courtesy of SOS.I hardly think that such sparse use is going to contaminate the West coast of Scotland. So I shall continue to use mine with a free conscience .

very good logic

I apply the same thing to litter

I like to find a pristine place - perfectly clean and beautiful like the west coast of Scotland

I throw my toffee wrappers down there because no-one else has made a mess there and my little bit is not important

while I am in Glasgow, where the streets are strewn with litter, I always use a bin because I am so disgusted at the behaviour of other people

Dylan

 

[Greenheart]

very good logic

I apply the same thing to litter

I like to find a pristine place - perfectly clean and beautiful like the west coast of Scotland

I throw my toffee wrappers down there because no-one else has made a mess there and my little bit is not important...but where the streets are strewn with litter, I always use a bin because I am so disgusted at the behaviour of other people

Dylan

+1.

Some people just don't see it. The rarer it is, the more conspicuously it's out of place...

...and no-one wants to be where Seagulls roost en masse. Imagine the racket, and that 2-stroke guano splattered everywhere.

 

[Searush]

very good logic

I apply the same thing to litter

I like to find a pristine place - perfectly clean and beautiful like the west coast of Scotland

I throw my toffee wrappers down there because no-one else has made a mess there and my little bit is not important

while I am in Glasgow, where the streets are strewn with litter, I always use a bin because I am so disgusted at the behaviour of other people

Dylan

It's a neat twist, Dylan but it is an urban dweller's perspective.

The point is actually about sustainability, isn't it?. Thousands of people throwing litter in a city just isn't sustainable. But an odd paper sweetie wrapper in the Highlands will decompose completely before the next person passes by.

Personally I like to take my litter home with me, or at least to a proper disposal point, but the odd spot of litter here & there is not that ecologically destructive - except for the non-decaying plastics.

I live in the country & a few drivers throw litter out of their vehicles from time to time. It's annoying, but most of it decays over a month or two so I don't actually need to carry a litter picker & bin bag with me when I go out for a walk. I do pick up the plastic stuff for them & put it in my recycling bin tho.

A little oil in millions of gallons of sea water soon dissipates without trace, it's the places where there are high concentrations that problems will occur over time. One tanker "cleaning its tanks" will deposit a million times more pollution in the sea than all the Seagull used in Scotland over several years.

 

[Niander]

One tanker "cleaning its tanks" will deposit a million times more pollution in the sea than all the Seagull used in Scotland over several years.

He does have a point...but yes you will say they do it far out in deep water where no one is looking!...hmm now that really is polution!
Nature is wonderfull at getting rid of oil polution ... remember in shetland a big oil tanker was wrecked ...massive concentrated oil spill...but it only took a few years for nature to get rid of it all
Where do you pump your bilge water out Dylan you will have some oil in that dirty water
having a dirty smelly diesel in the slug...does it have a little teeny weeny oil leak perhaps?
many old engines do have...

 

[Greenheart]

Dirty rats...

The difference between horrendous oil-spill disasters, and small leaks in elderly diesels, and Seagull usage, is deliberation.

Captain Rugiati was said to be a broken man, after piling up the Torrey Canyon on the Scilly Isles. He may have made the worst mess in history, but at least he knew he was wrong.

And it's true, most diesels drip a little into the bilges, but which owner/skipper is contentedly proud of that fact?

Whereas Seagulls spit unburned oil out, by design. And their fervent users say they're quite happy with that.

Hence, the question of the rodent's fundament. Everyone else can see Seagull users don't give a rat's ass...and because it singles them out, their indifference becomes their badge of faith - they actually grow defiantly proud of the machinery's unsophistication.

My uncle had a coat that fell apart. But the more we hinted at its unsuitability for wear outside the shed, the more determinedly fond he grew of it. One day he saw himself on video; and now the coat is laid-up permanently in the shed. Where Seagulls belong!

 

[Blueboatman]

Amazed that Seagulls seem so emotive an issue. Lets (say) most are owned by recalcitrant old sailing codgers, like me hoho. So when assaulted by endless smoky noisy powerboats coming and going from delightful quiet anchorages, hey, we get to give s taste of the dark side back at 'em....
And being do fuel inefficient, probably the humble seagull gets through less fuel in z year than posher imported models....tadaah. Result, no?
I think if I still had one I would build an induction muffler though..
What's needed is a chipfat based two stroke oil and the 'problem' of the humble seagull is sorted

 

[salinia]

I remember the seagull outboard from my childhood, my father was not the most patient of men and he would make Indiana Jones look like an amateur with some of the damage he could inflict with the starter rope in his attempts to get it going. If you didn’t end up with a whip marks across the face you would get an elbow uppercut. He eventually got a recoil mechanism that fitted on the top of the engine that made life more bearable.

 

[Yantlet]

Obviously all will be right with the world and the mess it is in once the final Seagull has been dispatched to the scrapheap - NOT!

 

[Yantlet]

Seagulls Fight Back

I remember the seagull outboard from my childhood, my father was not the most patient of men and he would make Indiana Jones look like an amateur with some of the damage he could inflict with the starter rope in his attempts to get it going. If you didn’t end up with a whip marks across the face you would get an elbow uppercut. He eventually got a recoil mechanism that fitted on the top of the engine that made life more bearable.

Not to mention the numb arm for a week after checking for a spark and getting nuked by a trillion volts from the magneto - Oh happy days.

 

[Keen_Ed]

What we need is a new-retro outboard. Nice modern 4 stroke, but no cowling and plenty of brass to polish. A bit steampunk-y. A spirit of tradition outboard?

 

[Greenheart]

The Silent Seagull?

What we need is a new-retro outboard. Nice modern 4 stroke, but no cowling and plenty of brass to polish. A bit steampunk-y. A spirit of tradition outboard?

Love it. Or perhaps the 'Seagull Silver Wraith' - plenty of rugged ironmongery on display, but housing Li-ion batteries like a Torqeedo.

 

[Searush]

Love it. Or perhaps the 'Seagull Silver Wraith' - plenty of rugged ironmongery on display, but housing Li-ion batteries like a Torqeedo.

Useless, it is the beautiful sound & the blue haze that is so evocative of a bygone era. You'll be suggesting horseless carriages next!

 

[Greenheart]

Searush, were you watching BBC2 an hour ago? Quite interesting documentary about William Golding. A couple of shots of the author, sailing a converted lifeboat in the Channel fifty years ago...let me tell you, you and he...a striking visual resemblance...

 

[atoyot]

Obviously all will be right with the world and the mess it is in once the final Seagull has been dispatched to the scrapheap - NOT!

The next logical step is to get rid of these blasted steam excursion railroad lines, running on coal or wood chugging back and forth on 150-year-old abandoned branch lines. Between the soot, ash, lubricants dribbling along the track, recycling potential (engines, cars, track...), waste of land use, and resource depletion it only makes sense.

 

[Searush]

Searush, were you watching BBC2 an hour ago? Quite interesting documentary about William Golding. A couple of shots of the author, sailing a converted lifeboat in the Channel fifty years ago...let me tell you, you and he...a striking visual resemblance...

I have more hair than he did . . .

 

[Greenheart]

I have more hair than he did . . .

Indeed. But...(and I ask other readers for their frankest points of view)...

...if you saw THIS chap swimming among the moorings near you...

...wouldn't you think..."it's Searush!!"

No offence, I hope. Fine looking fellow, I'm sure.