Sailing to the Republic of Ireland from UK-rules and regulations??

[dunedin]

Bit worrying for a lord if he just happens to look up the entry for his name.
Come to that I heard that you were looking a bit rough lately
Still, checking Wikipedia will save you asking the Doc what the chances are

Are you Boris - misquoting something by not including the full sentence ?

 

[Kelpie]

Who decides if the information in Wikipedia is actually correct? I used to believe that in the beginning one was just invited to post some information on the site & that was it. Is that still the situation or is there some authority that now decides that it is correct or not?

It's a completely open process. A bit like peer review. Anything you write can be questioned by someone else, asking for sources.
If you think something may be wrong or contentious, just check the talk and history tabs, and if you feel strongly enough about it, submit a correction, with sources.
It's fundamentally no different to any other form of information dissemination, but has the advantage of almost instant correction.

If you think Wikipedia is less accurate than other sources, you are probably overestimating the accuracy of those sources. For example, Wikipedia stopped using the Daily Mail as a source because it was wrong so much of the time.

 

[dgadee]

I think the Irish find "Eire" a patronising term. It usually comes from someone English. I remember being at a meeting where a senior QC was trying to persuade my charity to trust his English 'charity'. He said, "And we'll look after Eire, too." My Irish colleague quickly responded, "Do you mean Ireland?"

It's up to you, of course, if you want to prance about Ireland talking about Eire.

 

[dunedin]

I think the Irish find "Eire" a patronising term. It usually comes from someone English. I remember being at a meeting where a senior QC was trying to persuade my charity to trust his English 'charity'. He said, "And we'll look after Eire, too." My Irish colleague quickly responded, "Do you mean Ireland?"

It's up to you, of course, if you want to prance about Ireland talking about Eire.

OK so what do you recommend as the correct and unambiguous term to use when referring to the nation state, to differentiate from the island ?
As noted above, need to be clear which referring to in many / most circumstances

 

[steveinnice]

Like this : Hi, I'm going to tour Northern Ireland for a few weeks then go to the Republic of Ireland (or "the republic" or "Ireland" all perfectly acceptable )for a while. Never "Southern Ireland"

 

[AngusMcDoon]

OK so what do you recommend as the correct and unambiguous term to use when referring to the nation state, to differentiate from the island ?
As noted above, need to be clear which referring to in many / most circumstances

Republic of Ireland if you need to distinguish.

 

[dgadee]

OK so what do you recommend as the correct and unambiguous term to use when referring to the nation state, to differentiate from the island ?
As noted above, need to be clear which referring to in many / most circumstances

Angus is correct. But locals would talk about 'the south' and 'the north'.

 

[Daydream believer]

Are you Boris - misquoting something by not including the full sentence ?

Would including the full sentence have made any difference, other than fill in unnecessary space?
How did I mis quote? it was you that suggested that wikipedia inserted the entry BEFORE it happened. Are you saying that you did NOT say that. Now who is being a politician?
On top of that you must have realised that my posts were in jest, so you might take that into account. It was not meant as grounds for a forum divorce. We have too many of those
But then on consideration - to suggest that Boris would misquote anyone, must surely be said in jest, as it could not possibly be true== Could it?

 

[awol]

Would including the full sentence have made any difference, other than fill in unnecessary space?
How did I mis quote? it was you that suggested that wikipedia inserted the entry BEFORE it happened. Are you saying that you did NOT say that.

I have just re-read Dunedin's post and he (or she) certainly did not state/suggest/opine what you claim. Is English your first language?

 

[penfold]

Republic of Ireland if you need to distinguish.

Tediously longwinded though; I'd no more say that in conversation than I would United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

 

[Slowtack]

Once I met a sailor from the UK who motored alongside me at anchor enquiring if he was in "North Ireland" or "South Ireland"... Unable to assess whether he was jesting, confused in matters of history and politics or merely of limited navigational experience I informed him that we were in the West of Ireland. He seemed happy with that information.

 

[dunedin]

Tediously longwinded though; I'd no more say that in conversation than I would United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Yes, but unless people are precise then things are confused or simply wrong - eg you get some folks claiming to have “sailed round the UK“ when they have just sailed round either Britain (if include Duncansby Head and Cape Wrath), or worse a just part of Britain (if nip through the Caledonian Canal).
Similarly bit difficult to be precise about many things if don’t know if referring to island of Ireland or Republic of Ireland - big differences.

 

[Daydream believer]

I have just re-read Dunedin's post and he (or she) certainly did not state/suggest/opine what you claim. Is English your first language?

Well if you want to make sarky comments about my use of the English language perhaps we should clear that up
He wrote:-
"For example, when a notable person dies, the Wikipedia entry is typically already updated "
Suggesting that the entry in wikipedia was made prior to the death. Not after the death. If it was AFTER the death it would not have been "already" entered.

& to quote wikipedia for the meaning of "already"
adverb. /ɔlˈrɛdi/ 1before now or before a particular time in the past
So in other words - according to Dunedin- the entry concerning the death would be be made PRIOR to the death.

I then made what i had hoped was a light hearted comment about checking his/her health in wikipedia, rather than at the doctor's & it was not meant to be offensive.
I would have hoped that in the light of the current NHS situation forumites could be amused by it. Seemingly not so.

 

[dunedin]

Well if you want to make sarky comments about my use of the English language perhaps we should clear that up
He wrote:-
"For example, when a notable person dies, the Wikipedia entry is typically already updated "
Suggesting that the entry in wikipedia was made prior to the death. Not after the death. If it was AFTER the death it would not have been "already" entered.

& to quote wikipedia for the meaning of "already"
adverb. /ɔlˈrɛdi/ 1before now or before a particular time in the past
So in other words - according to Dunedin- the entry concerning the death would be be made PRIOR to the death.

I then made what i had hoped was a light hearted comment about checking his/her health in wikipedia, rather than at the doctor's & it was not meant to be offensive.
I would have hoped that in the light of the current NHS situation forumites could be amused by it. Seemingly not so.

You again failed to,read both the original post and what I pointed out in post #41 -about “misquoting something by not including the full sentence ?”
Reread the original ……
“For example, when a notable person dies, the Wikipedia entry is typically already updated (with a caveat about more info to follow) when you first look at it, just after the death has just been announced on the mainstream media”

Awol’s post #49 still applies.