Sail south until butter melts

[seansea]

There is an old saying for sailors heading across the Atlantic; head south until the butter melts and then turn 'right' (west) Always found the saying a odd as butter is a rather impractical thing on a boat. I sail with a tub of coconut oil, very versatile and spread on bread erc. Very handy for cooking and has all kinds of health benefits for skin too but also as a pseudo navigational aid! Coconut butter becomes oil at 24 degs C / 75 F... I also sail with dried skimmed milk from Morrisons super handy. No spilled milk or smells in the fridge....

 

[laika]

Coconut butter becomes oil at 24 degs C / 75 F...

Butter apparently starts to melt at 32-35 degrees. If you navigate by coconut butter in summer won't you be fighting the Gulf Stream?

 

[LadyInBed]

head south until the butter melts

It's a bugger if you have a fridge!

 

[lustyd]

I'd imagine a large percentage of forumites have too much saturated fat in their diets already so swapping butter for something even worse is probably a good way to clear the decks for the next generation of sailors!

 

[seansea]

Coconut butter becomes oil at 24 degs C / 75 F...

Butter apparently starts to melt at 32-35 degrees. If you navigate by coconut butter in summer won't you be fighting the Gulf Stream?
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You may be right, the budding vegan isn't going far

 

[Gary Fox]

Coconut oil has zero 'health benefits'. It might be good for leather parts such as gaff saddles though.

 

[Pete7]

Coconut butter becomes oil at 24 degs C / 75 F...

Butter apparently starts to melt at 32-35 degrees. If you navigate by coconut butter in summer won't you be fighting the Gulf Stream?
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It also turns solid in an aircraft hold. I picked up a Johnny Walker bottle of coconut oil in Belize whilst out on the Cayes. I arrive home only to be searched by Customs who opened my suitcase lifted out the bottle to ask what is this. The solid white fat like substance took some explaining.

 

[RichardS]

There is an old saying for sailors heading across the Atlantic; head south until the butter melts and then turn 'right' (west) Always found the saying a odd as butter is a rather impractical thing on a boat. I sail with a tub of coconut oil, very versatile and spread on bread erc. Very handy for cooking and has all kinds of health benefits for skin too but also as a pseudo navigational aid! Coconut butter becomes oil at 24 degs C / 75 F... I also sail with dried skimmed milk from Morrisons super handy. No spilled milk or smells in the fridge....

"butter is a rather impractical thing on a boat"

What? We have butter, mayo, yogurt, milk, cheese etc in the fridge. How can you manage without dairy products?

Richard

 

[Roberto]

There is an old saying for sailors heading across the Atlantic; head south until the butter melts and then turn 'right' (west) Always found the saying a odd as butter is a rather impractical thing on a boat. I sail with a tub of coconut oil, very versatile and spread on bread erc. Very handy for cooking and has all kinds of health benefits for skin too but also as a pseudo navigational aid! Coconut butter becomes oil at 24 degs C / 75 F... I also sail with dried skimmed milk from Morrisons super handy. No spilled milk or smells in the fridge....

I found pure coconut oil a blessing during a psoriasis episode I had while having no access to conventional drugs, it kept all the itching -which was very intense- away; I now take a small tub with me anytime I am travelling. (btw butter and Nivea cream were useless).

 

[MystyBlue2]

Coconut oil has zero 'health benefits'. It might be good for leather parts such as gaff saddles though.

Wrong!

As a keen athlete myself, Getting ready for competition consists of harder training, diet changes and Coconut oil is top of the list.

I drink coffee with a large slick of oil ontop, fry meat in the oil, kale, Fish, Veg etc etc.

And i am 77kg in competition with very little body fat, Abs out and pretty vascular with energy levels being 100x better by increasing my "Good fat" intake and cutting out "Carbs"

The diet....Ketos!

Do a quick search for yourself.

David Walliams was on this diet when he swam the channel for the HUGE long persistent energy release, Health benefits and weight loss capabilities.

I've been using this diet now coming up 3 years and i have never felt better.

Yes! I will confess when I'm not competing i do have too much fast food etc etc but thats a reward for myself for the hard work and sacrifice i do when I'm getting ready for competition. I owe it to myself and i will eat what the hell i like. And blow up to around the 90kg mark.

Seriously though Coconut oil health benefits are 100% true. You've just got to use it religiously and long enough to see the results. It's incredible stuff.

I have about 5 jars in my cupboard at all times as my wife likes to use it as a hair treatment

If your a sports fan and partake in any form of semi-energetic activity whether you compete or not i highly recommend. You will be highly surprised!

Website link. Its a good read
The Ketogenic Diet: A Detailed Beginner's Guide to Keto

 

[mjcoon]

It's a bugger if you have a fridge!

Although it may say "The" butter, you don't have to melt all of it!

 

[Zing]

I'd imagine a large percentage of forumites have too much saturated fat in their diets already so swapping butter for something even worse is probably a good way to clear the decks for the next generation of sailors!

Saturated fat is harmless. Butter and coconut oil are completely fine. You, and most of us have been misinformed for decades by very bad science. The data is now in.

 

[MystyBlue2]

Saturated fat is harmless. Butter and coconut oil are completely fine. You, and most of us have been misinformed for decades by very bad science. The data is now in.

I agree, fruit is far worse for you than previously thought as the high sugar content causes obesity and diabetes. It's all a falicy, If you want to eat healthy, Ditch that banana, Have a break and have a kitkat instead. Less sugar and full of calcium ?

Yet people still think that filling their faces with fruit all day is good for them, But then they wonder why there weight is on the increase and their teeth are rotting...

 

[Gary Fox]

The coconut oil marketing scam and resulting diet fad was exposed and debunked years ago; but there is plenty of room in the Lounge for such nonsense.

 

[MystyBlue2]

The coconut oil marketing scam and resulting diet fad was exposed and debunked years ago; but there is plenty of room in the Lounge for such nonsense.

Yeah ok then so the top athletes, Nutritionists, and scientists of the world are all wrong then yeah??

Come on, we've come along way from the 80's when every athlete lived on a diet of rice, Potato and chicken. The athletes of the world have grown in abilities and performance in every sport!

(And before someone mentions it, Its not always steroids related!)

They cant be all wrong!

Or maybe folk are still believing the sun news paper and the daily mail that 5 a day is still reducing your chance of a heart attack ?

Feel free to start a thread in the lounge, I have unbelievable amounts of info i can share and personal knowledge and achievements i can also share with you.

 

[RJJ]

I agree, fruit is far worse for you than previously thought

Not convinced. It's all about balance.

In so many things, think about how we evolved. Back when fruit was scarce source of essential nutrition, sweetness was a "reward" to the body that sought out those nutrients. Fruit's still good, but it's a lot of calories and a lot of sugar if you eat much more than the famous apple a day.

Additionally, I have an uneducated suspicion that our fruit has been bred for additional sweetness; it has to in order to taste sweet against the competing processed sugars that are readily-available. that's why "old English" style apples like Cox's are bland by comparison to Pink Lady etc (and don't sell).

Related to which, it's worth thinking about what our calorie intake was like back in the hunter-gatherer stage of our existence (which is the 730,000 or so years in which we evolved, rather than the 20,000 or so years in which modern society developed). I tend to agree with MystyBlue2. Fruit was scarce. we evolved to get our energy from eating every scrap of the kill and making it last for some days until the next one.

 

[seansea]

"butter is a rather impractical thing on a boat"

What? We have butter, mayo, yogurt, milk, cheese etc in the fridge. How can you manage with dairy products?

Richard

You mean without? May I ask what is your average length of journey without a stop over? I was referring to offshore, far offshore and in a boat sub 45' On a weekend or short cruise, it's no problem. I know one can have a diesel generator or loads of solar panels/wind gen/water gen but I suppose it depends on budget and required standard of living at the end of the day. Personally I wouldn't miss dairy and that fits in well with KIS - Keep it simple

 

[RichardS]

You mean without? May I ask what is your average length of journey without a stop over? I was referring to offshore, far offshore and in a boat sub 45' On a weekend or short cruise, it's no problem. I know one can have a diesel generator or loads of solar panels/wind gen/water gen but I suppose it depends on budget and required standard of living at the end of the day. Personally I wouldn't miss dairy and that fits in well with KIS - Keep it simple

Yes, without. Apologies.

We often go for 3 or 4 nights without access to any shops so in the Med heat it's essentially to keep dairy products in a fridge or similar. We also do like being reasonably self-sufficient and enjoy just going where we like without having to worry about whether there is a shop nearby and the having to find it.

Richard

 

[MystyBlue2]

Not convinced. It's all about balance.

In so many things, think about how we evolved. Back when fruit was scarce source of essential nutrition, sweetness was a "reward" to the body that sought out those nutrients. Fruit's still good, but it's a lot of calories and a lot of sugar if you eat much more than the famous apple a day.

Additionally, I have an uneducated suspicion that our fruit has been bred for additional sweetness; it has to in order to taste sweet against the competing processed sugars that are readily-available. that's why "old English" style apples like Cox's are bland by comparison to Pink Lady etc (and don't sell).

Related to which, it's worth thinking about what our calorie intake was like back in the hunter-gatherer stage of our existence (which is the 730,000 or so years in which we evolved, rather than the 20,000 or so years in which modern society developed). I tend to agree with MystyBlue2. Fruit was scarce. we evolved to get our energy from eating every scrap of the kill and making it last for some days until the next one.

Exactly which the kill would contain natural fats and proteins only. A bit like the ketos i mentioned above would you agree?

All the coconut oil and natural peanut butters etc are doing is helping us achieve our "pre historic" diets without the need to kill our neighbours dog for our food.

Its a brilliant way to replicate our ancestry diet and a brilliant way of processing fats as energy.

Now ive done it, Its definitely the way forward and now mostly rely on it for sustained energy release.

I tend to "Dump/Crash" far too quickly using carbs as energy.

I honestly dont know how i functioned all day at work before ketos on a carb diet without falling asleep on lunch breaks etc.

Fats are only stored in the body as "Fat/Flab" if a high intake of carbs are also consumed.

Because the body likes to take the path of least resistance and store fat and use carbs as energy because its easier for the body to burn carbs as energy source then fats. However the carbs energy tapers off quite quickly compared to a prolonged sustained release from fats.

Whereas ketosis....You force the body to do the complete opposite!

 

[Barbaria]

There is an old saying for sailors heading across the Atlantic; head south until the butter melts and then turn 'right' (west)

They did it wrong and should have turned East.
Who needs coconuts anyway?