Sail south until butter melts

[Graham376]

I'd imagine a large percentage of forumites have too much saturated fat in their diets already so swapping butter for something even worse is probably a good way to clear the decks for the next generation of sailors!

I've got to an age where not too many years left ahead and intend to carry on eating and drinking what I enjoy and sod whether healthy or not. Butter kept in the fridge (along with frozen chips and other unhealthy products) when it gets 30+ degrees down below. Diet on board much the same as when ashore.

 

[MystyBlue2]

I've got to an age where not too many years left ahead and intend to carry on eating and drinking what I enjoy and sod whether healthy or not. Butter kept in the fridge (along with frozen chips and other unhealthy products) when it gets 30+ degrees down below. Diet on board much the same as when ashore.

Good for you! Life is way too short. Enjoy your food. I wish i could most of the time tbh

 

[lustyd]

I've got to an age where not too many years left ahead

I got to that age years ago - I'm now 42. We only get 60 good summers in a lifetime so fill them up with good things.

 

[Neeves]

Oh dear

We've been here for a bit over 20 years and apart from winter its summer all the time. I think I'm well past my allocation of summer.

Jonathan

 

[Neeves]

On coconut oil

Coconut oil: are the health benefits a big fat lie?

Jonathan

 

[lustyd]

Yeah ok then so the top athletes, Nutritionists, and scientists of the world are all wrong then yeah??

None of those people would recommend such a diet for a person who does 37 steps a day on a boat crossing an ocean. Athletes can eat almost anything and have few negative effects. People sitting at the helm not so much. Balanced diet is the key there, and keeping calorie counts low.

 

[MystyBlue2]

None of those people would recommend such a diet for a person who does 37 steps a day on a boat crossing an ocean. Athletes can eat almost anything and have few negative effects. People sitting at the helm not so much. Balanced diet is the key there, and keeping calorie counts low.

Well for starters calories DONT make you fat! People need to get this out of their heads!

Bodybuilders for example can eat as much as 10,000 calories per day and their bodyfat % is nearly 0 for competition.

They train for 1hr per day so you cant tell me that they work off all the extra calories to stop them getting fat by 1 hr of exercise. That is another lie passed about from people that dont know what they are talking about.

For instance a friend of mine consumes around 4,500 "Calories" from fatty cheeses plus more from red meats and fish.....So by rites he should be morbidity obese yes?....Wrong!

forget calorie counting...Theres alot more to it than that.

A bad combination of carbs and fats make you fat mixed with lack of exercise.

Its perfectly acceptable for ANYBODY to use the ketos diet not just top athletes.

Read the link i posted on the last page and read the whole thing.

It explains it ALL and how normal people can use it aswell as sportspeople.

 

[MystyBlue2]

On coconut oil

Coconut oil: are the health benefits a big fat lie?

Jonathan

Ha so you're telling me the guardian know more than the top scientists, Nutritionists and top athletes of the world?

Clearly sports and nutrition is not your strong point like most people i will admit but seriously. Folk need to wake up as ALOT of diet tips that circulate are more often than not completely false!

Look at weight watchers and fatty fighters programs for instance....What a complete load of bull!

Yet people still fall for it and pay for it!

Like me and RJJ where saying, Back to raw basics and basic food!

Not, Eating a chocolate brownies because you fat fighter club says you can because you have points to spare ?

 

[lustyd]

Well for starters calories DONT make you fat!

Excess calories absolutely do make you fat. Sitting on your arse on a boat stuffing your face with anything at all will result in weight gain, and if you don't believe that then you're obviously very susceptible to marketing BS

 

[jdc]

Isn't sailing supposed to be a pleasurable hobby? Crossing oceans, especially going with the trade winds, isn't that strenuous and thoughts often turn to food and cooking, so why not take what you and your companions actually like? We never had any issues with butter even in the tropics. Try vacuum packing butter and cheese and storing them in the bottom of the fridge.

 

[MystyBlue2]

Excess calories absolutely do make you fat. Sitting on your arse on a boat stuffing your face with anything at all will result in weight gain, and if you don't believe that then you're obviously very susceptible to marketing BS

Unless you convert your body to convert to ketosis....even blinking, lifting your arm, launching your boat, Even breathing burns calories.

If you persist with ketos your body automatically burns "fat" without having to be active as such.

Like i said, Read the link once you have the grasp on how the body reacts and metabolic changes you might just see im correct.

Up to you if you want to turn a blind eye and believe the guardian but gyms around the world, Olympic athletes, Mixed martial artists, Boxers, Bodybuilders, Swimmers, Cyclists, Runners and even normal people who have committed themselves and gad incredible results etc etc etc will absolutely DISAGREE with you!

 

[lustyd]

I have read plenty about it thanks. I've also read about the strong links between high protein diets and cancer as I have friends who suffered from this following such diets who were advised by their doctors that the diet was likely the cause.
Those people are absolutely free to disagree, but I know quite a few cyclists at various levels who understand diet and certainly in cycling this is not a good dietary strategy. Carbs are required for this kind of sport, and the same is true of longer distance running.

 

[MystyBlue2]

I have read plenty about it thanks. I've also read about the strong links between high protein diets and cancer as I have friends who suffered from this following such diets who were advised by their doctors that the diet was likely the cause.
Those people are absolutely free to disagree, but I know quite a few cyclists at various levels who understand diet and certainly in cycling this is not a good dietary strategy. Carbs are required for this kind of sport, and the same is true of longer distance running.

Ha ok then we will agree to disagree. Anyone else reading this please check out reputable sites and the benifits of the diets and its benefits.

Ask anyone unless you're a Bodybuilder and NEED carbs to "Bulk" and increase muscle mass, and cuts out carbs to drop weight for competition. Yes! It is that black and white! Converting to ketosis will keep you leaner and give you more energy over a longer period of time than ANY carb diet.

I suspect your Cyclists friends have read the guardian too.

 

[lustyd]

Carbs don't built muscle mass, you're completely confused. Protein builds muscle (and too much causes cancer), carbs are used as fuel.

Most of my sources are medical universities such as Harvard and Stanford, I've never knowingly read the guardian.

 

[MystyBlue2]

Carbs don't built muscle mass, you're completely confused. Protein builds muscle (and too much causes cancer), carbs are used as fuel.

Most of my sources are medical universities such as Harvard and Stanford, I've never knowingly read the guardian.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Look at a bodybuilders diet plan and training regime then come back and spout your bull!

If your interested i train at...

Machine MMA stanley Co Durham.

My coach is...

Ian "The Machine" Freeman.

Google his name and read about him.

Im sorry but i think he knows alot more about nutrition than you do. We've had top athletes in the gym over the years and they are all doing the same!

Like said, They aren't wrong, Its other folk that cant see how it woks and why that are wrong!

 

[lustyd]

Eating carbs just fuels your body to prevent it from consuming muscle mass for energy. You're starving your body of real fuel with this crazy fad diet, so it's unsurprising you think that, but it's not healthy at all. In a healthy person who is eating properly, the body uses protein to build new muscle and carbs to provide them with the fuel to move.

I don't need or want to get into a pissing contest by name dropping. All of the major medical universities have the same information, and all pro level nutritionists are pretty consistent on this messaging and have been for a very, very long time.

 

[MystyBlue2]

Eating carbs just fuels your body to prevent it from consuming muscle mass for energy. You're starving your body of real fuel with this crazy fad diet, so it's unsurprising you think that, but it's not healthy at all. In a healthy person who is eating properly, the body uses protein to build new muscle and carbs to provide them with the fuel to move.

I don't need or want to get into a pissing contest by name dropping. All of the major medical universities have the same information, and all pro level nutritionists are pretty consistent on this messaging and have been for a very, very long time.

Ok so all the world top bodybuilders are doing it all wrong then because some bellend at Harvard says so yeah?

Im sorry but NO!

 

[lustyd]

Did you read the text on that image you just posted? It literally backs up everything I said.

 

[MystyBlue2]

Did you read the text on that image you just posted? It literally backs up everything I said.

No it doesn't. Look deeper and into the science of how to build and maintain muscle mass.....You've got to be on the wind up..Surely?

 

[lustyd]

"which means the body looks to glycogen for energy instead of breaking down muscle tissue for energy. "