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"which means the body looks to glycogen for energy instead of breaking down muscle tissue for energy. "
By INCREASING carb intake as you need a high carb diet to build muscle and then DECREASE carb intake to "Lean up" like i stated in a previous post!
 

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Eating carbs just fuels your body to prevent it from consuming muscle mass for energy. You're starving your body of real fuel with this crazy fad diet, so it's unsurprising you think that, but it's not healthy at all. In a healthy person who is eating properly, the body uses protein to build new muscle and carbs to provide them with the fuel to move.

I don't need or want to get into a pissing contest by name dropping. All of the major medical universities have the same information, and all pro level nutritionists are pretty consistent on this messaging and have been for a very, very long time.
Ok mate, My coach and the top athletes that often come and train are all wrong yes?

The top athletes of the world in all sports, Nutritionists and scientists around the world are also wrong?

Please let me know when you reach your goals, If you ever achieve them! I will pass on your top quality knowledge to the top guys and inform then that your way is the right way!
 

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Your coach might not be wrong, but your interpretation certainly is. Your advice here is dangerous and misleading and I would request you stop posting about a subject you clearly have no expertise or understanding in. Leave it to the experts to explain in forums dedicated to those topics. This forum should focus on boating rather than dangerous fad diets.
 

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Your coach might not be wrong, but your interpretation certainly is. Your advice here is dangerous and misleading and I would request you stop posting about a subject you clearly have no expertise or understanding in. Leave it to the experts to explain in forums dedicated to those topics. This forum should focus on boating rather than dangerous fad diets.
Yeah like your misinformed knowledge from the guardian.

I have been a part of competitive sports for nearly a decade and the top guys ive met and trained with are top of their league! With top advice that WORKS!

Im sorry but experience is key here and its clear you know nothing about top level sports and nutrition. Just the crap like most gullible folk such as Atkinson diet and weight watchers!
 

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Yeah like your misinformed knowledge from the guardian.
I don't understand your obsession with the Guardian, I've already said my sources are scientific journals from university sources. You literally sound like an infomercial for a fad diet, you even capitalised the word "works" as if you're trying to sell me something in a shockingly bad american accent. The British are referred to as limies for a reason, your fad diet has failed before and it will fail again, it's dangerous and unhealthy, and any nutritionist who doesn't tell you to have a balanced diet including carbs, protein and fat without a very good reason is definitely a crackpot to be avoided.
 

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I don't understand your obsession with the Guardian, I've already said my sources are scientific journals from university sources. You literally sound like an infomercial for a fad diet, you even capitalised the word "works" as if you're trying to sell me something in a shockingly bad american accent. The British are referred to as limies for a reason, your fad diet has failed before and it will fail again, it's dangerous and unhealthy, and any nutritionist who doesn't tell you to have a balanced diet including carbs, protein and fat without a very good reason is definitely a crackpot to be avoided.
Do your research and maybe take part and see for yourself. So easy for folk to sit behind a computer and give shite advice and pretend because they have read some crap that they are top level nutritionists and know more than the guys that make millions from this business!

Your telling me that some skinny bloke at Harvard knows how to build muscle better than this guy?



Come on! Think i will believe the folk and athletes that DO IT rather that folk that wright about it!

Some do and reap in the benifits, And some dont and think they know what they are talking about.

Like said you physically have to DO to see and by your simple view and responses i can clearly see you've never been in my shoes! And ive done this for the best part of a decade! So until you are, Please stop saying that im "Dangerous" as i am no spring chicken in this field.
 

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What makes you think I don't participate? Yes, the scientists at Harvard know an aweful lot, they're the ones providing the information for nutritionists to use, some of those scientists also do sports ;)

As long as you're just a danger to yourself I'm happy, but spreading this nonsense on a boating forum is unnecessary and unwelcome.
 

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What makes you think I don't participate? Yes, the scientists at Harvard know an aweful lot, they're the ones providing the information for nutritionists to use, some of those scientists also do sports ;)

As long as you're just a danger to yourself I'm happy, but spreading this nonsense on a boating forum is unnecessary and unwelcome.
Yeah ok mate you keep telling yourself that! Just because you go for a jog around your block 3 times per week dont prove a thing.

When you are at a competitive level and have done it for 10years then come back and we'll talk, Till then you just keep reading your articles and pretend you know what your talking about. Stick to boating mate you clearly have more knowledge in the maritime field than competitive sports and nutrition.

We'll just agree to disagree and end this.
 

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You make a lot of assumptions, do you realise that? It's probably why you're so easily misled.

I will keep reading scientific studies thanks, and I'll keep doing the sports I do at the level I do them. I'll also continue to highlight dangerous advice on Internet forums when I see it.
 

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You make a lot of assumptions, do you realise that? It's probably why you're so easily misled.

I will keep reading scientific studies thanks, and I'll keep doing the sports I do at the level I do them. I'll also continue to highlight dangerous advice on Internet forums when I see it.
Good for you! (y)
 

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On my own boat, the fridge is a normal small sized shore supply one. During our two Caribbean cruises it was named 'white box formerly known as fridge'.
That somehow makes me think of Michael Jackson, Prince, and a Kiwi rugby player!

No fridge, don't use spreads (yes a weird guy who likes dry bread and marmalade - or would have done if I had checked the yeast before setting off)

By the time I turned right the cheese would melt by day and solidify by night. A nightmare trying to make macaroni cheese!
 

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I'm not convinced that I need. the huge muscle mass of a weight lifter - please educate me.

I do note that many top athletes die young and or suffer multiple health issues, like the need for hip and knee replacements and have serious heart issues.

A surprising number of people live to a ripe old age, like HRH Prince Philip and I have never heard that he had much concern for muscle mass. Sailing and life is not meant to be an SAS exercise.

If you want to lose wight - go to hospital and live on a drip for a few weeks.

And no I have not read every post - there are some evangelists around. I'd rather read the Guardian the some of the drivel mentioned here. Of course serious trainers advocate their regime - they are a business.


And this thread should be in the lounge

Jonathan
 

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OK, from a Scuttlebut perspective we ascertained by post #5 that navigating by coconut butter wouldn’t work, as we would turn west too soon.
The passionate diversion since then must be fascinating for at least one person, but somewhat non boaty :cool:
 
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