Powerboaters

[Buck]

String the b***tards up!

On a more serious note I suspect the folks you are referring to are the idiots with big wads of cash and no training who get in the boat once every 3 months to show off to their "friends", not the denizens of these forums.
I sail and horrors of horrors powerboat as well and as previously mentioned, wash affects the shallow keel powerboats much more than sailboats that usually pull more depth, so these plonkers are usually equally derised by experienced powerboat users too.

Buck

The thing about men and fish is one is always trying to eat the other.

 

[wakeup]

I was going to let it go but I couldn't.

WAW's Post "Personally, all I can say is that it's no surprise as to what you get when you don't pay for your education" is outstanding. What the hell has somebody's education got to do with consideration to others when out on the water.

I am sure there are just as many chinless wonders with private education under their belts behaving like idiots on the water as there are comprehensive educated idiots. In fact there are probably more of them as they are incorrectly brought up to believe they have some divine right over others not so fortunate to be educated at public school and this attitude persist in all areas of their lives including boating.

WAW = What A W****R




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[MapisM]

Digital TV? Mind the mobile phones!

...not only they can hear what you say when you're using one, they can even track where you are located whenever you're carrying one with you!

...God bless SSB !...

 

[Guest]

I think you took the bait,hook,line and sinker!
Although I have to say alot of powerboaters do have a tendancy towards tatoo's & piercing..and thats just the ladies.... JOKE!

 

[wakeup]

So what you're saying then is to beware those powerboaters whose tatoos are mispelt as they probably didn't go to Eton or Harrow.



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[Guest]

One who went to Harrow would not have tatoos, would one?

 

[Twister_Ken]

Only if one had a manservant adept at dermal needlework.

 

[wakeup]

One never knows these days, even Royals have tongue piercings.

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[longjohnsilver]

What absolute bollox! NM M

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[wakeup]

Re: What absolute bollox! NM M

Blinded by your eloquence.

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[Grasshopper]

Just to say thanks to everyone who responded to my initial posting and how amusing it has been to read some of the replies. Maybe one day somebody will invite me out on one of these "Gin Palaces " so as to experience both sides of this issue.
One final point which I did witness on Tuesday in Mercury marina was a small speedboat attempting to line up alongside on of the berths (and I think I would be safe in stating that none of the shaven headed "Crew" had attended Eton or Harrow )had all failed to work out that in order to tie up onto a berth in a marina the essential requirments would be a) lines to fasten boat to pontoon with and b) Fenders (Eh!!) in order to stop banging your boat alongside the pontoon edge or other peoples floating pride and joy!
Ah well we all have to learn some things in life the hard way
Have fun!

 

[Guest]

Wakeup...Lighten up

You really shouldn't take life so seriously. Of course education has no bearing at all on manners or someone's ability to handle a boat... amount of money does (JOKE!!!!!!!!). My post was just designed as a light hearted and saracstic follow up to Luckyjimbo's previous one about comprehensive schools causing a decline. Unfortunately with this type of medium a post is likely to be at the mercy of being read according to the mood/interpretation of the reader as much as the intention of the writer. If I touched some kind of nerve then I apologise.

Idiots are idiots, no matter what their background or education. Similarly inconsiderate behaviour is also equally distributed regardless of the means of propulsion of a person's boat. The majority of boat owners I come across, power or sail, are considerate and well intentioned.

Whilst I'm sure it's hugely frustrating and annoying for sail boats to encounter a fool in a power boat, the reverse is also true, along with the assumption (by a minority I'm sure) that anything to do with power boats is evil.

I respect and fully appreciate the need to give due consideration to all other craft on the water and the need for right of way to sail. However I struggle to come to terms with the assumption that a minority have, that this means they have carte blanche to sail around as though they are the only ones on the water and it is up to everyone else to watch out for them. This is not only incosiderate and arrogant, but dangerous.

Bill

 

[wakeup]

OK OK, I took it hook, line and sinker, appologies for the WAW acronym.

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[Guest]

No problem (was quite funny actually).

Besides, more important things today, 1-0, how good was that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bill

 

[luckyjimbo]

Well I hope you all had a few quid on your country, cause I did!! silly comprehensive school boy I am.
Anyone that belongs to this forum, or the others nearby, have all got one thing in common, yes, you know it we all love boats, if you get angry with someone who has come too close, get the name of the vessel, take it up with them, if thats what you feel is right, if someone in a red mondeo cuts me up, I don't think everyone in a Ford is an ars*ole!, you know what I mean?
Ps. God Save the Queen, and Come on England!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
James
PPs. Boats called Footsteps if you see me, let off a flare, and I'll give you a Guinness.

 

[Joe_Cole]

Re: Powerboaters=idiots?

You miss the point.

The initial posting on this thread described thoughtless behaviour by a boater. It is that behaviour that should be condemned, whether by two fingers or otherwise. I'm quite happy to share the water with anyone regardless of his boat, education etc etc.

Incidently, if you breakdown I'll happily tow you in. Perhaps you might care to read the posting I put up a couple of weeks ago about a broken down power boat on the Exe!

Regards

 

[BlackSheep]

RANT!

Quite agree that it doesn't matter what flavour the boater is, it's just down to good manners and common decency.
We chose last Monday to pick up passengers at Tarbert and head up to the Crinan canal - right in the middle of Scottish Series week. Having avoided the can chasers, heading up loch Fyne with a good southerly behind us, goose winged with the main out to port with a preventer & the genny poled out to stbd, clocked another yacht, with just his main up (not racing), on a broad reach, gradually converging with us from our port side. Ok, with both of us on stbd tack, technically he was the stand on vsl, but surely with the whole of the loch to manouvre in it would have been easier for him just to harden up a little and slip round our stern, but oh no, without even casting us a glance, let alone waiving he was determined to cross ahead of us. And ok, it was probably good practice for us to scramble forward, release the preventer, take the genny off the pole and bear away. Call me simple, but I think that if the roles had been reversed, I'd have appreciated his situation, smiled, waived at a fellow yotty and given him plenty of sea room....
By the way the yacht was called "Envy".... hope he doesn't call "Mayday" while I'm on watch..... "unknown station your transmission is broken & unworkable!!!!"
Here ends this evenings rant.

 

[peterb]

Goosewinging

1 Take the preventer through a block (or similar) on the foredeck, then bring it back to the cockpit.

2 Rig the pole with uphaul, downhaul and guy so that it is held in position without relying on the foresail. Put a third sheet through the poleend fitting, and attach it to the foresail clew. Use this sheet to pull the foresail to the pole.

3 Now you can control the sails entirely from the cockpit. Any rig that requires you to go forward onto the foredeck before you can make anti-collision manoeuvres is not really seamanlike.

 

[Oldhand]

A cure could be a Hollywood production where one of the minor disasters is caused by a stearing gear failure on a motor yacht passing at the usual average separation of 10m or less from an overloaded illegal immigrant craft with appropriately dramitic results. This could be broadcast instead of repeats of World Cup football matches. However, I guess the message would still be lost on some water craft "drivers".

 

[tcm]

Re: rather a lot of wash

Hi barry. I guess the boat is called er grasshopper?

However, the solenties do complain mightily whereas others elsewhere have a worse time, perhaps.

Last weekend we were in southern france. Approaching the beach at Pampleonne our skipper decided to overtake another power boat, a leopard 27 (metres), on his port side. We were doing 26 knots ish. A 30 foot sailboat was ahead to our starboard, but 200 metres off so no real prob. But it turns out that the leopard 27 was waiting for his mates in a mangusta 108' and a 105 behind. They decide to nip thru the space we'd left for the sailboat. Then the L27 decides to re-overtake us at towards 30 knots on our starboard side too. So the sailboat received wash from 4 boats totalling over 250 tons at between 25 and 35 knots. Bad enuf for us going with them at 26 knots with them on the outer port side, let alone small sailboat at 5 knots in other direction.

I understand that the skippers of all of these powerboats were...ex-yotties! And also one of the powerboats was called Uppercut as the owner is big in the boxing industry, so best thing is to avoid that area around lunchtime if in sailboat, perhaps.