Pogo 12.50 super quick cruiser

[doris]

Does anyone have any personal experience of a Pogo 12.50 cruiser???
either as owner or crew.

 

[John_Silver]

Interesting (apparent, from the low response level) lack of direct Pogo experience on the forum. Given the strongly expressed views on this style of boat, in various threads. But maybe down to the specificity of the request…Pogo 12.5.
If you’re a Facebook person there is a modestly active (6posts in a week) 1700 member “Pogo Owner Group.” Good luck with the research!

 

[michael_w]

On my lottery list! Though I'd like lifting rudders a la Classe 40.

 

[mrming]

I raced in a class with one in a JOG race this year. It was a breezy day and although the Pogo 12.5 was hopeless on handicap, it took off like a scalded cat downwind.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

I’ve had a sail on a 30. For a halfmaran it was moderately quick downwind. But if you’re serious about sailing fast, you need to go over to The Dark Side. The cost difference isn‘t much, but you can’t swing a cat in a performance tri.

 

[r_h]

Haven't sailed the 12.50 (though have done the AZAB competing against one) and have sailed other Pogos, including the 44. Very quick, generally very easy to handle, huge stability are all in its favour. Inside the 12.50 is relatively basic and doesn't have a large owners cabin forward - but otherwise there's plenty of volume.

 

[John_Silver]

What’s the motion like?
Question prompted by on board footage from the Class40’s. Albeit the Pogo’s are more pointy at the bow and heavier.

 

[ridgy]

What’s the motion like?
Question prompted by on board footage from the Class40’s. Albeit the Pogo’s are more pointy at the bow and heavier.

This article make clear that while being overwhelmingly positive about the boat, upwind might be an acquired taste from a motion and noise perspective:
Dream Yachts: The ultrafast Pogo 12.50 |

 

[Chiara’s slave]

This article make clear that while being overwhelmingly positive about the boat, upwind might be an acquired taste from a motion and noise perspective:
Dream Yachts: The ultrafast Pogo 12.50 |

The 30 was exactly as you’d expect a quick, light displacement boat to be. Not as choppy as my tri, but Vancouver owners would complain bitterly.

 

[Laser310]

I was actually aboard one for a tour
it was next to us on the dock at the Caribbean 600 one year.
I think it might actually be the one that's listed on Yachtworld now - it was being run as a pay-to-play business.
It was certainly a pretty cool boat, although it didn't look like that outfit had the funds to really keep it maintained to a very high level - everything looked a bit tired. I think the boat was getting a lot of use.
As far as it being a "cruiser".., well I'm sure it is for some people...
It certainly had the look of a boat that would appeal to a performance-oriented sailor who absolutely requires a boat that is fun to sail.., that rewards tweaking, and who looks at comforts and says; "who needs it?".
it's somewhat spartan down below and, and not a lot of storage, but fine for a couple.
I think it could work well if the cruising plans are weekends and a few multi-week cruises per year in comfortable climates.
Live aboard would also be fine, for the right owners, but probably terrible for the wrong owners.
If you are looking at that boat, I would look carefully. It's been a few years since I saw it, and it was tired then.

 

[zoidberg]

Does anyone else consider this is just too topical for our 'obersturmbanfuerers'.....

 

[michael_w]

SWMBO would have a Pogo 12.5like a shot. I'm a lucky guy. 'You have to choose wisely.'

 

[Chiara’s slave]

SWMBO would have a Pogo 12.5like a shot. I'm a lucky guy. 'You have to choose wisely.'

The 30 wasn’t fast enough for Mrs Chiara. And she felt the interior wasn’t very inviting.

 

[doris]

Thank you for your input chaps.
I find references to lack of comfort odd. Yes there are some outright race boats that are a tad spartan but the normal fit out is every bit as comfy as a Moody or HR, it just is a tad more wipe clean and less of an Edwardian gentleman’s club down below. Sea motion might be a tad more frisky, but one can slow down if that’s s the only problem.
I just fancy one last boat that can really blast away and I cannot afford a sexy 40ft trimaran, at £900k a clip!!!

 

[John_Silver]

Thank you for your input chaps.
I find references to lack of comfort odd. Yes there are some outright race boats that are a tad spartan but the normal fit out is every bit as comfy as a Moody or HR, it just is a tad more wipe clean and less of an Edwardian gentleman’s club down below. Sea motion might be a tad more frisky, but one can slow down if that’s s the only problem.
I just fancy one last boat that can really blast away and I cannot afford a sexy 40ft trimaran, at £900k a clip!!!

Know what you mean…..if you can find one, a JPK 39FC or its predecessor the 38FC, offers similar (Jean-Pierre would say better, when in cruising trim) performance with more creature comforts (like doors and sole boards) below v’s a Pogo. The RM’s are another step higher, in the homely fit out stakes, but heavier and slower. Maree Haute’s Django’s are of a similar ilk, but have yet to inveigle my way aboard one….

 

[Daydream believer]

There is a video out ther of a chap crewing an RM across Biscay. He seemed surprised how comfortable it was for such a boat designed to be fast down wind. Obviously not as fast as a Pogo, but possibly worth trading ultimate speed for some comfort.

 

[Cariadco]

There is a video out ther of a chap crewing an RM across Biscay. He seemed surprised how comfortable it was for such a boat designed to be fast down wind. Obviously not as fast as a Pogo, but possibly worth trading ultimate speed for some comfort.

I think that might have been Patrick Laine in his new RM. He sails solo everywhere, which he originally did in a Bav 38? and then another smaller yacht. but all his Vids a Brill:
https://www.youtube.com/@patricklaine6958

 

[John_Silver]

Cesar, at RM, describes their boats as ‘fast cruisers’ and the JPK’s and Pogos as ‘slow racers.’ Slightly loaded, but making the point that that the yards come at quick cruiser design from different start points, on the cruiser racer spectrum.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

Cesar, at RM, describes their boats as ‘fast cruisers’ and the JPK’s and Pogos as ‘slow racers.’ Slightly loaded, but making the point that that the yards come at quick cruiser design from different start points, on the cruiser racer spectrum.

not sure tye Pogo is a 'slow' racer. if the tanks are full, and you're fully loaded with canned soup and Fray bentos maybe. But it's pretty much a class 40. Just add crew, you'd think.

 

[dunedin]

Cesar, at RM, describes their boats as ‘fast cruisers’ and the JPK’s and Pogos as ‘slow racers.’ Slightly loaded, but making the point that that the yards come at quick cruiser design from different start points, on the cruiser racer spectrum.

Judging by their incredible race results, there is nothing slow about the JPK racers