Bigplumbs
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Yes you can for 'commercial use' or second hand
New Member question regarding imported engines and CE Marking
- Thread starter Nykona
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Binnacle
Active member
Once again, there's a moral imperative being trampled on. Do tell us, Plums, do you/have you wilfully bought a 2 stroke outboard in the last 18 months ?
Boathook
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The banning of 2 stroke outboards was stupid. The numbers involved are miniscule compared with hedge trimmers, strimmer's, chainsaws, etc used all day especially by professionals.
westernman
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2 stroke outboards are not banned. They are subject to the same emissions standards as other outboards.
It is hard to make a clean 2 stroke outboard. So there are not many, but there are some. E.g. Evinrude E-TEC G2 300
Tranona
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Perhaps you need to look at the origin of the EU rules that effectively banned small 2 stroke engines. I was deeply involved in it when working for Seagull and it was difficult to argue against the evidence of the high levels of pollution, particularly in European lakes from the unburned hydrocarbons left because of incomplete combustion inherent in the designs of the day. 2 strokes were not banned but levels of emissions set at such a level that was impossible to devise a 2 stroke that would meet it and be suitable for use on a small engine. All the major (Japanese) manufacturers had 4 strokes in their range that could easily be reconfigured to produce acceptable outboards. Off course it effectively killed Seagull as our engines were arguably the worst offenders.
Daydream believer
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Whilst CE stands for "Conformité Européenne", be aware that some goods stamped CE are not necessarily compliant because CE also stands for "Chinese Export".
How convenient
How convenient
westernman
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Whilst CE stands for "Conformité Européenne", be aware that some goods stamped CE are not necessarily compliant because CE also stands for "Chinese Export".
How convenient
Totally different logos:-
Nykona
New member
Update in case anyone else stumbles upon this thread and needs advice.
Despite the RCD specifically mentioning that all marine engines require CE certification there are some exceptions later on.
At first this specifies that boats used for commercial use for passengers do not require CE certification for the boats themselves but later says that Engines installed on watercraft DO require CE certification.
The complication is that they later define "Watercraft" as only recreational craft which excludes commercial passenger craft.
A lot of back and forth but the end result is that not a single directive under CE is applicable to either the commercial vessel itself or the engines/generators etc, installe don it provided it is not used for recreational purposes at a later date.
I assume this is because they are already covered by IMO emmissions standards and ISO certificates among others.
So yeah looks like we are good to go.
Despite the RCD specifically mentioning that all marine engines require CE certification there are some exceptions later on.
At first this specifies that boats used for commercial use for passengers do not require CE certification for the boats themselves but later says that Engines installed on watercraft DO require CE certification.
The complication is that they later define "Watercraft" as only recreational craft which excludes commercial passenger craft.
A lot of back and forth but the end result is that not a single directive under CE is applicable to either the commercial vessel itself or the engines/generators etc, installe don it provided it is not used for recreational purposes at a later date.
I assume this is because they are already covered by IMO emmissions standards and ISO certificates among others.
So yeah looks like we are good to go.
Daydream believer
Well-known member
Is this one of those "spot the squirrel in the picture" competitions?
Seastoke
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I have ,A tohatsu 3.5
Gustywinds
Member
Like in the post war era lots of goods were labelled “Made in USA” where USA was a town in JapanWhilst CE stands for "Conformité Européenne", be aware that some goods stamped CE are not necessarily compliant because CE also stands for "Chinese Export".
How convenient
westernman
Well-known member
In the post war era, "Made in Japan" or "Made in Germany" was intended to warn you of an inferior product made by a country which lost the war.
Hence the workaround of creating an area in Japan called USA.