PLEASE HELP! Boat Seized in Spain by Pirates (Policemen)

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I like many others put a hell of a lot of money into the spanish economy and take nothing out for free.

[/ QUOTE ]Ditto. We use private doctors all the time and pay for our meds in the pharmacy, even though we could use our EHICs. We believe that by paying our way as tourists we are contributing to the host country, not 'taking'.
 
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I live in Italy and speak the lingo like a local; does that make me a suspicious character?

[/ QUOTE ]You betcha!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif ...sorry, couldn't resist!
I'm with you on the rest of your comments, though tbh the N EU retirees have probably brought more money to e.g. Spain, compared to the costs Spain had to bear to give them hospitality.
Pretty different from what happens in Lampedusa on a daily basis, frinstance.
 
However if you become resident in another EU country, you will not just be contributing by spending your money there, you will also be paying taxes there on your worldwide income, maybe your wealth (if they deem you to have enough) and all the other taxes paid by the people of that country, which means in the case of Spain, a registration tax on boats, cars etc., introduced as a green tax to compensate the government for loss of the luxury tax they had to drop when VAT was introduced.

There do appear to be some exceptions for some things already owned and imported when becoming resident, which is maybe what Alex Chumillas refers to, but I'm not clear on that one.

As a UK pensioner health cover is provided for by an annual lump sum transfer between the two governments, arranged under the E121.
 
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However if you become resident in another EU country, you will not just be contributing by spending your money there, you will also be paying taxes there on your worldwide income, maybe your wealth (if they deem you to have enough) and all the other taxes paid by the people of that country, which means in the case of Spain, a registration tax on boats, cars etc., introduced as a green tax to compensate the government for loss of the luxury tax they had to drop when VAT was introduced.

[/ QUOTE ]Indeed. This isn't an 'opt-in' voluntary thing /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif That's why we all need to understand the rules and make sure that we plan our lives within the rules to suit our circumstances. It would be, for example, daft to get involved in full Spanish residency (administration and tax) if your plan was to go back to the UK in nine months, or move to another jurisdiction. It wouldn't do anyone any favours to go to all the trouble -- except, maybe, lawyers and accountants /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Yup I know, my point was that the bottom line for Spain out of "UK retirees business" is bound to be positive even regardless of what you mention. Not exactly the same as "invading a Country which then bears the costs", which is indeed what happens in other cases.
 
The OP was happy to tell us that he had moved from Benalmadena, but is obscure about where he is.

If the OP would deign to tell us where he is, then someone may be able to pop along to help, or even confirm that he is there. It would also help others to avoid the place if they were at risk.

Until he at least tells us where he is, I remain suspicious.
 
Come on lads and lasses, I nearly said it on my earlier post but I will stick my neck right out, it's a TROLL. Didn't he hit the right buttons with all the whistles and bells.

Where is the guy wanting all the help he can muster? Exactly, no communicardo, probably laughing his socks off so much that he can't use his keyboard.

Yes, I am a cynic and happy to be.

Very interesting how people interpret the post in different ways though. It's good that we are not all the same !

Makes a change from the threat of taxing sail area for a April fool
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[/ QUOTE ]Yes, I also had a post addressed to me in the lounge directing me here 'as a matter or urgency', by a poster who enjoys trying to wind me up, and a private email, via regular email, not PMs, from another poster who enjoys trying to wind me up, directing me to this thread - a poster who has never, ever, emailed me before. Pre-April 1st and a wee bit juvenile. It is one of two posters, neither of whom are in Spain or in the least bit of distress.

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Well, you can count me out. On my mother's and my son's life, it was not me.

I thought it was you being self mocking!

However, I forgot that you do not have a sensayuma and would certainly never mock yourself when there are so many others to patronise.
 
May be a TROLL but the same post is here: web page
and they got some more sensible answers than in this forum.

By the way: As they refer to Spain as "stupid country" I shall say there is not stupid countries. Might be stupid citizens, stupid laws or stupid burocracy, but we have this sort of things all over the world and taxes are paid in almost every country, even if we don´t like to pay them.
 
Well spotted. Yes that is a cruising forum inhabited by helpful and non sarcastic people, unlike some other forums. It is of course based in the US and maybe American yotties have a more relaxed attitude to life than the British equivalents, some of whom seem to only want to try to score points off other posters, rather than to offer any helpful or useful input to the forum.

No names needed are there?
 
Re: EU \"LAW\" allows this sort of thing....

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Has Trouville finally resurfaced ??????????????

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...he is alive and well and posting on other boards /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
Re: EU \"LAW\" allows this sort of thing....

Why doesn't this forum show the ip address of a post?

Many other forums based on the same software do include this info on a post. Makes identifiction of spoof posts far easier.
 
Re: EU \"LAW\" allows this sort of thing....

Little point, few people have fixed IP addresses. In fact many ISP's will charge extra for a fixed IP address
 
Re: EU \"LAW\" allows this sort of thing....

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Little point, few people have fixed IP addresses. In fact many ISP's will charge extra for a fixed IP address

[/ QUOTE ] I am aware of that Brendan but at least you'll get country of origin unless of course they use a proxy server.

Many times people will ask and answer their own questions while still signed on to the same session... or send in anonymous glowing reports about an organisation while using an ip address that can be tracked back to that same organisation.

Most spoof posts are spotted on the other forums because the spoofer knows far less than you and I about the internet.
 
The OP may have got more sympathetic responses on the other forum, but not many wer of much value. Some were about VAT which while an understandable preoccupation of North Americans crusing in Europe, has nothing to do with the OP's predicament.

It appears the OP has become liable for income tax in Spain, and that has a knock on consequence for his vessel. If so, there's not much scope for argument so even the best lawyer is unlikely to wriggle out of it.

I agree it would be reassuring if the OP were to respond with some more information. Until this happens I reserve judgement on the troll possibilty.
 
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