Passage peeing

[Poignard]

Perhaps we should adapt our dear mothers' advice.

Instead of "You should have gone before we left home!" we should say "You should have gone before you came on watch!"

 

[john_morris_uk]

But did you jump with them....?

( Must confess you wouldn't get me jumping out of a perfectly serviceable aircraft. I'd leave claw-marks in the metal.... )

I regret not. I tried several times to get on a jumps course but was always told there was no availability as there was no military requirement for me to be para trained. . A pity since I was exempt ‘P Company’ by dint of having managed to get myself through commando training somehow. They offered me a jumps into the sea but you don’t get your Para wings for that so I declined. Royal are a bit sniffy about ‘badge collecting’ so I didn’t push it too much.

 

[Kukri]

Very true. I guess in those circumstances it's time to wake up the wife... However I guess we can all dream up exceptional circumstances.

Regarding going below to the heads to pee, I was referring to when in open waters. A good look round and you're good for a few minutes of visiting the heads and doing your business.

John, there is a well known case in which a yacht was run down and sunk by a dredger off Harwich - the owner had gone below to the heads, the boat was on autopilot and his wife was sitting in the cockpit with her back to the cabin bulkhead.

The dredger made a course alteration out of the buoyed channel in order to dump the silt that she was carrying; visibility from the bridge forward was poor and the yachts’ crew assumed she would hold her course in the main channel.

Collision between dredger Shoreway and yacht Orca resulting in the yacht sinking with loss of 1 life

 

[Daydream believer]

All new male guests get told how to pee - SIT DOWN and there is a pictogram as well, just to remind them.

NO WAY. By the time I had undressed I would have either peed myself or been sea sick. Besides, what is wrong with standing over the bowl. One does not have to stand as if one is at a cocoanut shy trying to win a cuddly toy. I do have to admit though that the reason that I did not buy an Elan 31 when I chose my boat was that the idiot designers had placed a bulkhead immediately over the pan. That meant that unless one was hung like a donkey one was never going to pee standing up & score a bull. So if you have such a boat & are not a porn star, then I can understand your problem

 

[john_morris_uk]

John, there is a well known case in which a yacht was run down and sunk by a dredger off Harwich - the owner had gone below to the heads, the boat was on autopilot and his wife was sitting in the cockpit with her back to the cabin bulkhead.

The dredger made a course alteration out of the buoyed channel in order to dump the silt that she was carrying; visibility from the bridge forward was poor and the yachts’ crew assumed she would hold her course in the main channel.

Collision between dredger Shoreway and yacht Orca resulting in the yacht sinking with loss of 1 life

I remember the incident and the report. Neither vessel came out of it well. The yacht assumed…. and assumption is the mother of something IIRC.
I’m rather hoping if we were two up, my better half would do a better job of keeping a lookout…. Bearing in mind I’ve been called back in deck just after going off watch and when haif asleep to explain that the ship she can see is the same one that was well clear of us when I handed over. (I have to smile and remind myself NEVER to complain about being called from your bunk - even when the crew try your patience sometimes.)
Apologies for drifting the thread again.

 

[Kukri]

Maurice Griffiths says somewhere - and I certainly agree - that one often develops a desperate need to pee when carrying out some particularly tricky manoeuvre in a crowded anchorage with the eyes of everyone on the boat and her crew.

 

[zoidberg]

What's the fastest way to get the sleeping skipper on deck?
Whispers in the cockpit.... "Do you think we should tell the skipper..?"

 

[Mister E]

Ladies please remain seated for the entire performance. Gentlemen please stand closer its shorter than you think.

 

[bbg]

Easiest solution: stand in cockpit, aim towards drain, wash it away with a bucket of water.

 

[Frank Holden]

The possibility of needing to pee while on watch in heavy weather when both hands are fully occupied elswhere is why one should not wear sea boots.

If the weather isn't too bad the after head on a Westerly Sealord is quite useable ... a rather skinny doorway that you can brace your self in a so you just aim in the general direction. Follow up with a bucket full of ocean chucked through the doorway when when the weather moderates.

The 'squat to pee' brigade have obviously never had to not only remove PFD and jacket but also drop not only outer leggings but also two or three sets of thermals plus their jocks.... and reverse whole procedure post pee..... while the ship is bouncing around in a seaway in cold and heavy weather.

 

[Tradewinds]

The possibility of needing to pee while on watch in heavy weather when both hands are fully occupied elswhere is why one should not wear sea boots.

If the weather isn't too bad the after head on a Westerly Sealord is quite useable ... a rather skinny doorway that you can brace your self in a so you just aim in the general direction. Follow up with a bucket full of ocean chucked through the doorway when when the weather moderates.

The 'squat to pee' brigade have obviously never had to not only remove PFD and jacket but also drop not only outer leggings but also two or three sets of thermals plus their jocks.... and reverse whole procedure post pee..... while the ship is bouncing around in a seaway in cold and heavy weather.

Agree. Every time I use the head at sea I always want to be out of there soonest and back to looking around (even in an 'empty' ocean). Most (70/80s) toilets often serve a double use as a shower anyway - might as well pee standing up (and braced) as best you can. Quick rinse later down the line.

 

[john_morris_uk]

Easiest solution: stand in cockpit, aim towards drain, wash it away with a bucket of water.

I seem to sail in the company of more genteel ladies than some on here. Or is this another reason why so many boats only have male crew?

 

[zoidberg]

I seem to sail in the company of more genteel ladies than some on here. Or is this another reason why so many boats only have male crew?

C'mon, John! What did you do in a Royal Marines snowhole...?

 

[john_morris_uk]

C'mon, John! What did you do in a Royal Marines snowhole...?

If you really want to know, nearby, you’d cut blocks of compressed snow/ice and make a shelter (just low walls and no roof) around a designated peeing place. And as we were always on exercise and not in a real conflict situation, there would be a chemical loo to sit on for a No 2. Leaving piles of human faeces around wouldn’t be the best way to keep the Norgies onside. It did lead to the surreal experience of sitting on a chemical loo in subzero temperatures inside a low walled ice and snow enclosure looking over a frozen landscape of ice and snow and mountains etc. There were no ladies present. You did ask…

 

[zoidberg]

The things you do for Queen and Country.....

 

[john_morris_uk]

The things you do for Queen and Country.....

I'd like to say that "You have no idea". However I suspect that you do.

 

[SaltIre]

A friend of mine advises one-eyed peeing at night.
This involves closing one eye when going down below for a pee.
When going back upstairs you open the aforementioned eye and as if by magic your night vision is maintained.

 

[john_morris_uk]

A friend of mine advises one-eyed peeing at night.
This involves closing one eye when going down below for a pee.
When going back upstairs you open the aforementioned eye and as if by magic your night vision is maintained.

I think I'll stick to using the one eyed snake.

 

[Kukri]

A friend of mine advises one-eyed peeing at night.
This involves closing one eye when going down below for a pee.
When going back upstairs you open the aforementioned eye and as if by magic your night vision is maintained.

I thought everyone did that?

I have always had red lights in saloon and heads but I am now told this is nonsense?

 

[SaltIre]

I thought everyone did that?

I have always had red lights in saloon and heads but I am now told this is nonsense?

I've heard that dim light is good and was told to avoid red light areas.