Passage peeing

[johnphilip]

The shroud hanging relief ending with Dick Out When Found.

 

[Deleted member 36384]

Incredible!

Now 82 posts on how to piss with a tallywhacker! Something men have been doing multiple times a day all of our lives.

Men, get a grip of yourselves!

 

[NealB]

My experienced crew have common sense and good manners, so if the chaps piss in the heads, they sit down without even being asked.

Have you read posts 44 and 53?

 

[doris]

I used to sail with a skipper who used a length of 32mm pvc waste pipe to pee overside. Then a crew member brought his own 50mm pipe.
"Sorry Alan, your pipe is too tight for me".

Brilliant said he, reaching for a ruler to check..........

 

[doris]

The amount of time spent below removing oilies, life jackets etc just a sit down pee can result in vomit on the floor. Much worse than pee.
Either a dinghy baler or a cut milk container, perfect. Ladies squat in the cockpit, any gentleman would avert his eyes.
On Rothmans, Laurie Smith's Whitbread maxi there were a couple of Aussie crew who, at the end of their watch just hung their arses over the leeward quarter for a dump, a lot easier than faffing around trying to pump the heads doing 20+ kts! In my experience even at 9-10 kts it can be difficult to get the heads to suck. A rough sea is no place to stand on dignity, just think where the 'heads' originated from!.

 

[JumbleDuck]

Men, get a grip of yourselves!

 

[JumbleDuck]

On Rothmans, Laurie Smith's Whitbread maxi there were a couple of Aussie crew who, at the end of their watch just hung their arses over the leeward quarter for a dump, a lot easier than faffing around trying to pump the heads doing 20+ kts!

I used occasionally to sail with a female friend who would drop everything from the waist down, recline into the pulpit, legs spread, and do whatever was required there. As she was just a friend, and I had absolutely no desire to acquire the gynecological knowledge a brief glance would have brought, I had to keep my eyes firmly fixed on the compass as matters proceeded. I have never had the courage to try the same technique myself.

 

[Gary Fox]

The amount of time spent below removing oilies, life jackets etc just a sit down pee can result in vomit on the floor. Much worse than pee.
Either a dinghy baler or a cut milk container, perfect. Ladies squat in the cockpit, any gentleman would avert his eyes.
On Rothmans, Laurie Smith's Whitbread maxi there were a couple of Aussie crew who, at the end of their watch just hung their arses over the leeward quarter for a dump, a lot easier than faffing around trying to pump the heads doing 20+ kts! In my experience even at 9-10 kts it can be difficult to get the heads to suck. A rough sea is no place to stand on dignity, just think where the 'heads' originated from!.

It's unfortunate if people are made nauseous by going below. How do such persons manage to do a No.2, let alone put the kettle on or update the chart? I have often wondered but it's for another thread.
However, one part of your cockpit suggestion gave me pause for thought. I'm sure others may have different habits, but I and my crew tend to wear oilskins and lifejackets with harnesses, and tethers.
So for ladies to pee in the cockpit, they would have to unbuckle their lifejacket belt strap and crotch strap, undo the braces and pull down their salopettes, pull down any trousers etc, Pee, then reverse the process..all holding on to the boat with one hand, in the cockpit, and by definition while not clipped on properly, or having her lifejacket done up, and also getting the clothing under her oilies wet from spray or rain? Surely you ought to send her below to do all this stuff?

 

[oldmanofthehills]

But they don't fit in my cockpit cubby ;-)

In rough weather I kneel on the cockpit floor facing aft. I've often though it must look like I'm praying ????

I have done that too. Also no harm in praying for the storm to ease while you are about it.

My long ago aquisition of first tiller pilot was to ease such activities whether above or below deck

 

[john_morris_uk]

It's unfortunate if people are made nauseous by going below. How do such persons manage to do a No.2, let alone put the kettle on or update the chart? I have often wondered but it's for another thread.
However, one part of your cockpit suggestion gave me pause for thought. I'm sure others may have different habits, but I and my crew tend to wear oilskins and lifejackets with harnesses, and tethers.
So for ladies to pee in the cockpit, they would have to unbuckle their lifejacket belt strap and crotch strap, undo the braces and pull down their salopettes, pull down any trousers etc, Pee, then reverse the process..all holding on to the boat with one hand, in the cockpit, and by definition while not clipped on properly, or having her lifejacket done up, and also getting the clothing under her oilies wet from spray or rain? Surely you ought to send her below to do all this stuff?

I try very hard to be sympathetic to people who are seasick, and I try to reassure crew that most people gain immunity after a while. Early season if I'm tired and I sail straight out into rough seas I can be sick as a dog, but I know that it passes after 24 hours (or generally after I've had a sleep). The only reason I am writing the is to agree with you. How on earth do people manage if they cannot go below and have a rest or write up the log, or cook a meal, or do something simple like go to the loo.
We'll have to disagree over always sitting. I find it extremely difficult to empty my bladder while sitting down and there's nothing particularly wrong with me. (I've been checked out several times.) Although I sympathise with your desire that people ought to sit, I'm afraid I will carry on kneeling and making sure that there's no splash or spray. As someone else has said, how will you ever know whether I've knelt or sat anyway?

 

[Babylon]

At sea a small plastic measuring-jug, lanyard tied to the handle, sea then flushes it clean in a trice. I'm usually single-handing anyway, but if not the crew can always look away if they're faint of heart.

If not underway I just stand for a pee in the heads. A periodic spray with Ecover and a few foot-pumps with the shower-attachment freshens things nicely.

On the rare occasion when beating that I need to sit down (for the usual sitting down business that is) there's nowt wrong with briefly going hove-to to calm things down.

Don't know what all the fuss is about!

 

[zoidberg]

No need for gaffer tape, remember Queen Victoria's husband.

But... get a modern one wi' LED lights to give 'em something to remember.

'Lovehoney' of Bath is the place..... I'm told!

 

[zoidberg]

This is not a new problem....

The notorious RAF Pee Tube

They were fitted in Canberras, Vulcans and elsewhere. Probably a 'job lot' from Vickers. Like our Lancaster pilot, the culture was 'You Don't Use Them'.
Although I held the record for the longest flight in a Can B12, for a while, I had to be carried out of the crew cockpit, so 'cramped' had I become.

This is the sort of thing -

There was also a rubber tube and a rubber bladder. There was no Maintenance Schedule for such devices, so they weren't 'Maintained'.... so the rubber was most probably perished with the deep cold of flight in the 40-thousands. That's probably the origin of the well-known phrase 'fill yer boots'.

 

[oldmanofthehills]

I try very hard to be sympathetic to people who are seasick, and I try to reassure crew that most people gain immunity after a while. Early season if I'm tired and I sail straight out into rough seas I can be sick as a dog, but I know that it passes after 24 hours (or generally after I've had a sleep). The only reason I am writing the is to agree with you. How on earth do people manage if they cannot go below and have a rest or write up the log, or cook a meal, or do something simple like go to the loo.
We'll have to disagree over always sitting. I find it extremely difficult to empty my bladder while sitting down and there's nothing particularly wrong with me. (I've been checked out several times.) Although I sympathise with your desire that people ought to sit, I'm afraid I will carry on kneeling and making sure that there's no splash or spray. As someone else has said, how will you ever know whether I've knelt or sat anyway?

A old freind had to give up sailing as she could not pee readily while seated in a rolling boat. Long ago childbearing damage plus fear of embarressing herself with accidental leakage had worsened over the years, so she froze. Men can have similar issues but at least have an alternative.

Re Fred Drift. I always get sea sick but happily never quite spew, the Navigator less so but still afflicted. We can both sleep below as the root cause is conflict between the message from organs of balance not synchronising with message the eyes however looking for food or dealing with cooking is a multivisit task in spaced stages. Normally it passes as you say but rough weather can bring it on

 

[JumbleDuck]

There was also a rubber tube and a rubber bladder. There was no Maintenance Schedule for such devices, so they weren't 'Maintained'.... so the rubber was most probably perished with the deep cold of flight in the 40-thousands. That's probably the origin of the well-known phrase 'fill yer boots'.

My glider had a rubber receptacle and pee tube emerging in the wheel well. I never dared use it. I did hear of a pilot who used an external catheter, taped onto the, erm, appropriate organ and connected to a similar tube. All went well until on one landing the tube caught caught up on the axle of the wheel and he suffered significant injuries as a result. Don't dangle a pee tube near the propeller, chaps.

 

[Gary Fox]

I try very hard to be sympathetic to people who are seasick, and I try to reassure crew that most people gain immunity after a while. Early season if I'm tired and I sail straight out into rough seas I can be sick as a dog, but I know that it passes after 24 hours (or generally after I've had a sleep). The only reason I am writing the is to agree with you. How on earth do people manage if they cannot go below and have a rest or write up the log, or cook a meal, or do something simple like go to the loo.
We'll have to disagree over always sitting. I find it extremely difficult to empty my bladder while sitting down and there's nothing particularly wrong with me. (I've been checked out several times.) Although I sympathise with your desire that people ought to sit, I'm afraid I will carry on kneeling and making sure that there's no splash or spray. As someone else has said, how will you ever know whether I've knelt or sat anyway?

I don't even disagree with you about sitting; because kneeling is just as good!

 

[Poignard]

This is not a new problem....

The notorious RAF Pee Tube

They were fitted in Canberras, Vulcans and elsewhere. Probably a 'job lot' from Vickers. Like our Lancaster pilot, the culture was 'You Don't Use Them'.
Although I held the record for the longest flight in a Can B12, for a while, I had to be carried out of the crew cockpit, so 'cramped' had I become.

This is the sort of thing -

There was also a rubber tube and a rubber bladder. There was no Maintenance Schedule for such devices, so they weren't 'Maintained'.... so the rubber was most probably perished with the deep cold of flight in the 40-thousands. That's probably the origin of the well-known phrase 'fill yer boots'.

How true it is I couldn't say but I remember reading in someone's wartime memoirs that such things were fitted to some of the older propeller driven Fleet Air Arm aircraft.

Unpopular pilots with the 'ground' crew were liable to find the tube had been blocked when they came to use it

 

[Behome]

This is definitely the way forward having just done several night passages this has made a world of difference and no need to fumble around for a light while trying not to bounce off the bulkhead and the real bonus a good target to aim forView attachment 117732

Gentlemen sit under way.

 

[davidpbo]

An alternative is The Cabbie's Friend:

View attachment 117798

An empty wide necked detergent bottle was of use to me recently.

 

[john_morris_uk]

This is not a new problem....

The notorious RAF Pee Tube

They were fitted in Canberras, Vulcans and elsewhere. Probably a 'job lot' from Vickers. Like our Lancaster pilot, the culture was 'You Don't Use Them'.
Although I held the record for the longest flight in a Can B12, for a while, I had to be carried out of the crew cockpit, so 'cramped' had I become.

The C130 Hercules type off aircraft that I've flown on many times had a pee-urinal towards the port side aft end. There was even a sort of canvas 'privacy curtain' for the faint of heart IIRC