Opinions on a good 50Hp Diesel

[Guest]

Hi all,

I need to replace the Perkins 4108 in my Yacht with a new engine. I am considering a Beta 2203. Does anyone have any views on this choice or can reccomend an alternative.

Thanks for your help,

Charlie

 

[PaulJ]

Charlie,

I have a Perkins Prima which is rated 50hp@3000rpm. It is the same basic engine as Volvo paint green and call their MD22L and also that Leyland put in their Montego Diesels/Sherpas etc. I figured that would give me three possible sources of spares wherever I happen to be if and when it goes wrong! Mine was supplied nearly five years ago through a company called "West Country Marine" near Bristol and at that time their phone number was 0117 960 6611.

I can't give you an "in service report" because my boat still isn't finished but I do run it up from time to time and it starts first time every time and seems to run very smoothly........ 'hope this helps.

 

[colin_jones]

I am in the process of replacing a BMC 2.2 with a Beta 2203, which will be delivered next Monday.

We looked at 8 engines before deciding on the Beta for a number of reasons too many to detail here.

There is obviously more to tell than can be delivered ina reply here, but Ted Spach of Beta is very knowledgable and helpful. They are a [pleasant company to deal with.

 

[Will_M]

The MD22L is no longer in production from Volvo Penta, the new unit which in effect has replaced the 50hp bracket is the D2-55 (55hp @ 3000rpm).

This unit has a 2.2ltr capacity the old MD22L was 2.0ltr, the torque curve produced from the D2-55 totally surpasses anything the old, MD22L produced.

The published RRP for the complete package, D2-55/MS25AorL is. £ 6,348.00 Vat

Private message sent which may be of interest?

Ta, Will.


<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by Will_M on Wed Nov 28 08:46:25 2001 (server time).</FONT></P>

 

[Guest]

We have recently installed a ford 50 hp engine where I work. The complete package was 4500 sterling. It came with mounts,gearbox, panel etc. All ready to fit. It was supplied by Lancing Marine. They specialize in ford engines. This model is the LDX 1.8

 

[billskip]

if you chuck the old un out chuck it my way ..I love the old 4108.

 

[colin_jones]

Most replacements are called bobtail engines, but some have longer tails than others. You just need to check that the price contains such things as gear box, gearbox oil cooler, basic instrument panel, key switch and panel, wiring loom and a basic, short voyage spares kit. Then ask about delivery charges.

Quite often, the advertised price is not the only consideration.

 

[Twister_Ken]

Funny no one\'s mentioned Yanmar ...

...which seems to be the de-facto choice amongst builders nowadays - Yanmar lists a 3JH2-TE at 46 horse.

 

[Guest]

I had problems with my 4108 and asked the engineer the same question. He said he should recommend a Volvo because he gets lots of work out of them, but that if he was fitting an engine in his boat he would use a Kabuto because they never go wrong ? I ended up fitting a reconditioned 4108 which worked out as the cheapest option by far, the last one survived 26 years.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the info. Where did you get the recon 4108 from, as Perkins have stopped doing them.

Thanks and regs

Charlie

 

[oldjohnnyb]

You should try Watermota in Newton Abbot. They convert Ford engines hence many spares are available at Ford Agents. I have found their after sales service excellent.
John

 

[colin_jones]

Agreed - but Watermota ( for some reason) are no longer the agents for Borg Warner gear boxes etc.

Another source of refurbished engines and parts in the same Newton Abbot area is Stephenson Marine ( 01803 814011) at Ipplepen. Eric Stephenson did 25 years as engineer on all sorts of big and small boats before setting up 5 years ago. They are a very knowlegeable little company about all the things which we amateurs never think about.

On the same converted farm estate, there are also a propellor specialist and a steel fabricator.

Like many of us, they have moved inland because you get ripped off on marina quays.

 

[J_Priedkalns]

Also, try Lansing Marine as they advertise reconditioned marine engines occaisionally. VW produce marine diesels 4cyl and 6cyl. I converted a Golf diesel for marine use using marinizing parts supplied by Lansing and the engine has been excellent since 1983. A friendly VW mechanic tuned the engine for a case of beer several years ago and it is still running well!