PaulRainbow
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Can you not use a wireless keyboard and mouse ?My laptop is touch screen! Brain wifi?
Can you not use a wireless keyboard and mouse ?My laptop is touch screen! Brain wifi?
This is true of all makes. Throw away WorldChum bought a used Garmin 4010 last year and we added a depth module, worked perfectly until a week or two ago.
Goodbye £300.00 quid.
We cannot find anybody who actively will even look at "legacy" Garmin chartplotters.
Brand new 10.4" Android tablets £120. These run all day if on charge. Not great in bright sunlight, but perfect down below.It has gone off to a company who normally repair SatNavs and do not hold out much hope.
If you do buy any "legacy" chartplotter, buy on the assumption that if it fails the day after, you will be throwing it away.
Would stick with your existing kit and hope it continues to give good service but would be buying something like below today and using as main chartplotter, with your old kit as reassuring backup.
Samsung SM T395 Rugged Chartplotter Tablet : by VisitMyHarbour [Turn Key Android chartplotters] - VisitMyHarbour articles
Have some fairly modern kit on my boat but use something similar to above with Navionics as main navigation aid.
Have found Ipads far too fragile for the job, in the real world, screens crack, they can over heat and battery life on extended cruises is rubbish even when supplied with constant 12v.
hi, thanks for your response, I take your point about possible failure so it might be better to buy really cheap and hope for the best. I was very happy with the kit I had but it went with my boat when I sold it.Chum bought a used Garmin 4010 last year and we added a depth module, worked perfectly until a week or two ago.
Goodbye £300.00 quid.
We cannot find anybody who actively will even look at "legacy" Garmin chartplotters.
It has gone off to a company who normally repair SatNavs and do not hold out much hope.
If you do buy any "legacy" chartplotter, buy on the assumption that if it fails the day after, you will be throwing it away.
Would stick with your existing kit and hope it continues to give good service but would be buying something like below today and using as main chartplotter, with your old kit as reassuring backup.
Samsung SM T395 Rugged Chartplotter Tablet : by VisitMyHarbour [Turn Key Android chartplotters] - VisitMyHarbour articles
Have some fairly modern kit on my boat but use something similar to above with Navionics as main navigation aid.
Have found Ipads far too fragile for the job, in the real world, screens crack, they can over heat and battery life on extended cruises is rubbish even when supplied with constant 12v.
Agreed. I bought Raymarine which is both touch screen and knobs. We use the touch screen mostly, knobs very occasionally.I am put off buying new by the adoption of touch screen.
I need knobs.
If you’re looking at old raymarine plotters I’d prefer the C/E series “wide”s over the “Classic”s. Excellent connectivity (NMEA-0183/seatalk1/seatalk ng/ seatalk HS), supports AIS (although won’t display newer target types such as atons with special symbols) and displays dsc alerts. Takes navionics cf cards. Do they still do these? Well people on here were telling me they were long discontinued when I bought my last one 3 years ago so who knows? My c90w currently works with an evolution AP, AIS, icom radio and a bunch of st50 instruments. Would I personally buy an old plotter like this? Maybe not but there’s nothing I desperately need that this one won’t do so I’m not about to upgrade.Does anyone have thoughts about this or any advice about these models.
suspect it might be generic battery.anybody who knows what they are doing with a solder sucker and soldering iron can probably sort that.I have a mono RC435 plotter which still works fine, must be 25 years old. The only problem is the back up battery is dud so it always restarts in the USA and does not hold any settings. Not a huge problem for a back up set.
The battery is secured to the board in fine style so not easy to replace.
You have a C120 with built in GPS ?Absolutely nothing wrong with older Raymarine plotters. The 120 series are quite adequate for general use and usually come with Navionics for home waters installed. The only drawback is that the charts will undoubtedly be out of date so don't rely on the charts too much but they will still give you accurate positional GPS and used intelligently are a good bit of kit that can be bought second hand for a budget price. I personally don't like touch screen stuff. Operating in a small boat in any sort of choppy conditions is a nightmare. Old fashioned knobs are very much more user friendly IMHO. The built in GPS usually makes installation easy and AIS can be imported easily too. Screens are quite good resolution and bright enough to be read in an open cockpit and I disagree about larger screens being "slow." Unless you are belting around at 25knots the refresh rate is quite adequate. If you want a good bit of kit at a budget don't be put off. They are old now but so am I and I still work well!
Yes, although there was a lot of 'chatter' about it, a couple of years ago, it is available, easy and it works well.If you’re looking at old raymarine plotters I’d prefer the C/E series “wide”s over the “Classic”s. Excellent connectivity (NMEA-0183/seatalk1/seatalk ng/ seatalk HS), supports AIS (although won’t display newer target types such as atons with special symbols) and displays dsc alerts. Takes navionics cf cards. Do they still do these? Well people on here were telling me they were long discontinued when I bought my last one 3 years ago so who knows? My c90w currently works with an evolution AP, AIS, icom radio and a bunch of st50 instruments. Would I personally buy an old plotter like this? Maybe not but there’s nothing I desperately need that this one won’t do so I’m not about to upgrade.
This has been in my head since I read it a few hours ago.My experience is that a small screen with a rapid refresh rate is easier to use than a slower large screen. I had an SL70 B&W set and changing to an e7 was a bit like having a much larger screen, as you could zoom in and out more or less instantly, as well as scroll across. I think you will find any modern small screen a much better buy.
Tablet charts £50.00 ? and used on the Flybridge with a 12v supply.This is true of all makes. Throw away World
Brand new 10.4" Android tablets £120. These run all day if on charge. Not great in bright sunlight, but perfect down below.
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It looks like you have an indoor boat. Try a touch screen wearing gloves with a force 5 and rain for company.This is true of all makes. Throw away World
Brand new 10.4" Android tablets £120. These run all day if on charge. Not great in bright sunlight, but perfect down below.
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I don't have an indoor boat at all, that picture is of the lower helm, to show the 2 £120 tablets.It looks like you have an indoor boat. Try a touch screen wearing gloves with a force 5 and rain for company.
Knobs every time.
Agreed, which I why I went down the Raymarine Element S route. Still current model and available for about £480 on ebay or £417 from Hudson Marine. Raymarine Element S - HVI am put off buying new by the adoption of touch screen.
I need knobs.
Very true, but the E120 on our boat was fitted when new and is from 2008.Noah fitted a secondhand Raychart RC630 on the ark, it's prehistoric.
C120/E120 are at the very least 15 years old, virtually obsolete and hanging on by the skin of their teeth.
Where do you plan to fit the plotter, at the helm or at the chart table ?