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[onesea]

Nob of the Day

Starting a new thread for all to nominate as they see fit...

Today it goes to a Moody 42 At&%na of Salcombe...

There we are just East of Cowes No 3 up double reef in as we are feeling relaxed, we see them at fair distance (they are the only boat for a good mile about us, some say that's notable on the Solent) motoring 4 points on our Stbd Bow. They are maintaining a constant speed and course as well as relative bearing to us...

We maintain our course and speed sailing on. As we get within hailing distance I shout "HELLO!" eventually a head appears from behind the spray dodger. Looks to his other man and points at us.

By this time we are within 10' of them I alter slightly to pass within a couple of feet of there stern.

They where totally unconcerned....

Well you sir have earned the first title of Knob of the Day...

I must admit that language is tame to what my misses rather loudly called you, shows at least she knows some seamanship

 

[Budgieboy]

Thats a funny one , they have only just bought that boat , I put an offer in and had it turned down , you would have thought with the new boat they would be a bit careful

 

[sarabande]

mind and boat on autopilot. The device should be confiscated.

 

[RichardS]

But if you only had to alter course slightly to pass behind them from as close as 10 feet it does sound like it might have been a miscalculation of passing distance on their part rather than a decision to ignore / ignorance of Colregs?

Richard

 

[Rivers & creeks]

"If you can walk away from a sailing trip, it's a good sailing trip. If you use the boat the next day, it's an outstanding one."

 

[Sticky Fingers]

"If you can walk away from a sailing trip, it's a good sailing trip. If you use the boat the next day, it's an outstanding one."

That's funny...!

 

[Rivers & creeks]

Adapted from Chuck Yeager's landing quote. Sounds like the OP just had a slightly near miss, they happen quite a lot.

 

[[70521]]

All turned out well so why throw a hissy fit and vent on the interweb.... "Chill man" as Dylan from the Magic Round about would say.

Life it too short to get upset over trivial things like this.

P.S. Note to self avoid the Solent.

 

[PotatoNavigator]

Last time I was out, I was sailing down Southampton water when I noticed a mobo approaching from 1 or 2 points of our starboard quarter only doing a knot or two faster than us. SHMBO was making all sorts of noises about moving out of the way but I assured her they would give way since they were the overtaking boat yada yada.

Anyway, once they were within about 20m I noticed that they were on autopilot and there was no-one at the helm! At this point I realised I would have to move out of the way, I couldn't tack in front of them as they were too close, but looking ahead I realised I couldn't bear away slightly either due to two other yachts sailing in the opposite direction!

Luckily, much shouting persuaded said nob to poke his head outside and change course, with a good 2m to spare, no hand of apology or anything, just gave me a look like somehow I was in the wrong!

 

[Triassic]

...just gave me a look like somehow I was in the wrong!

Well technically you were not without fault if you have left it so late that you had no avoidance options available to you.....

People are human, they make mistakes. Allowing yourself to be victim to them is just plain daft. I find lots of people don't seem to appreciate how fast multihulls can be and I frequently have to make adjustments, it's no big deal, I just make sure I pass close enough to leave an impression.....

 

[Lyndsey Doyle]

Good morning, a good idea, NOTD.
Yesterday it was me.
I've been doing a lot of chiselling and hand planing, and, having slightly calloused fingertips, have developed the habit of running a finger over a tool edge to see if it needs sharpening.
That method does not work with a Bosch electric planer though. Take my word for it! LD

PS, for some reason, previous posts brought to mind a phrase "Nothing in these Rules...", must look it up later..

 

[Newboy6458]

Agreed that people do make mistakes, but in the Solent we share a crowded piece of water.

I'm with onesea. To leave a vessel on autopilot and force other people to implement rule 2 is discourteous, to say the least. I'm all for being chilled, but after a while making corrections for other people's poor lookout gets does get a tad wearing. I think NOTD is spot on.

Wonder what their insurance brokers would make of dereliction of rule 5?

 

[PotatoNavigator]

Well technically you were not without fault if you have left it so late that you had no avoidance options available to you.....

People are human, they make mistakes. Allowing yourself to be victim to them is just plain daft. I find lots of people don't seem to appreciate how fast multihulls can be and I frequently have to make adjustments, it's no big deal, I just make sure I pass close enough to leave an impression.....

I oversimplified the situation in my post slightly, it was a line of boats coming the other way all with right of way over me, I didn't want to cut between them due to shallow water just to the north of Hamble, and the mobo had already made a change of course, but not enough no avoid collision, so they were running just off parallel with us, and barely a knot faster when they were drawing up alongside.

 

[Lyndsey Doyle]

I oversimplified the situation in my post slightly, it was a line of boats coming the other way all with right of way over me, I didn't want to cut between them due to shallow water just to the north of Hamble, and the mobo had already made a change of course, but not enough no avoid collision, so they were running just off parallel with us, and barely a knot faster when they were drawing up alongside.

Heave to?

 

[prv]

a good 2m to spare, no hand of apology or anything, just gave me a look like somehow I was in the wrong!

At 2m, you were. Rule 17. They're regulations to avoid collisions, not just to decide who to blame afterwards.

Pete

 

[macd]

Nob of the Day...
Knob of the Day

“The only completely consistent people are the dead.”
― Aldous Huxley
Hence the ColRegs. And spelling conventions

 

[Poignard]

Dear God! Please tell me we aren't going to get a post every time somebody makes a mistake. The forums will be swamped!

Do we really need to know about this trifling incident of no importance to anybody except those involved?

 

[prv]

Do we really need to know about this trifling incident of no importance to anybody except those involved?

All turned out well so why throw a hissy fit and vent on the interweb.... "Chill man" as Dylan from the Magic Round about would say.

Life it too short to get upset over trivial things like this.

+20

Pete

 

[Rivers & creeks]

Dear God! Please tell me we aren't going to get a post every time somebody makes a mistake. The forums will be swamped!

Do we really need to know about this trifling incident of no importance to anybody except those involved?

Sadly some people still believe in the concept of the "right of way", the OP was under the misunderstanding that he had the right of way, he didn't. He was supposed to plan ahead to avoid a collision and he only just did. Sure the other guy was supposed to as well but the idea of the Col Regs isn't that one bloke ploughs on determined to show he's in the right. Dead right.

 

[Poignard]

Sadly some people still believe in the concept of the "right of way", the OP was under the misunderstanding that he had the right of way, he didn't. He was supposed to plan ahead to avoid a collision and he only just did. Sure the other guy was supposed to as well but the idea of the Col Regs isn't that one bloke ploughs on determined to show he's in the right. Dead right.

"He was right, dead right, as he carried on
but he's just as dead as if he was wrong."