If you were going to sail around the world on a sub 40ft yacht, what would you pick?

This is a beauty.. . . . Oh it has done both circumnavigation and transatlantic without beingdragged off a reef.

The owner says: 'As regards my sailing in Magenta Sky, I have sailed extensively in the Irish Sea and the Western Isles in her; circumnavigated Ireland; circumnavigated Scotland via the Orkneys; crossed the Bay of Biscay 4 times; and completed an Atlantic Circuit via Madeira, Antigua, Nevis and St Kitts, The British Virgin Islands, Bermuda, the Azores, and Eire. . . .

There's circumnavigating and then there's circumnavigating.
 
The boat in question was one of the Spray related designs and built on a very limited budget so had some of the characteristics you describe. builder was an interesting character, but bottom of the Irish Sea is probably as good a place as any for it to end up.
To be fair to Dave, he had already completed a circumnavigation in ‘Zane Spray’ before she sunk after he had made some modifications to her hull.
 
Westerly Sealord..... same same this one... https://yachtcamomile.co.uk/about/

I haven't done a circumnav in mine...probably never will ... but she has gone from the UK via Suez to Thailand and then - in my ownership - west and south of Australia to Chile and up to Argentina and the Falklands.. ....then back down to Chile and back to Oz... then back to Chile...

Good seaboat, comfy ride, plenty stowage for long sea voyages, no vices I can think of....
 
There's circumnavigating and then there's circumnavigating.

Why so picky? These are the current owners comments only!

"She has served her present owner well since he bought her in 2011 and has done a circumnavigation and Atlantic voyages".

Is that good enough for you!
 
Why so picky? These are the current owners comments only!
Is that good enough for you!

No, they're the broker's comments.

The owner only claims he did an Atlantic circuit and a circumnavigation of Ireland and a circumnavigation of Scotland including the Orkneys.
 
>Sorry, his last boat was wood. Built by Ray Roberts in Whangerei NZ.

I read his book and this is what he wrote. This is the story of Susan and Eric Hiscocks last voyage in the steel ketch Wanderer IV.
Yes Wanderer IV was the last boat he circumnavigated in but Wanderer V was his last boat and built in wood to his design by Ray Roberts.
I found an old YBW forum link.
http://www.ybw.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-96772.html
 
I read Around the world in Wanderer 3, and beyond the western horizon avidly as a kid. They painted such an incredible picture of what living on a boat and sailing around the world was like.

But it does amuse me that his opinions on boats are still being given so much weight. I can't think of any other field in which 50 year old recommendations would still be thought of as current.

The world has moved on...
 
The world has moved on...

Not for many people here it hasn't.

Look at the choices of many of the contributors to this thread.

People seem to forget that the Giles designs he originally had built were fairly radical at the time when many of his contemporaries were sailing boats with workboat origins - converted fishing boats and pilot cutters for example, or based on Archer's lifeboats.
 
The world has moved on...

Though many of the attributes are still very valid for a long term, long distance cruising boat. (Though maybe not so much for a not an once on the arc then back to the solent boat)

And many attributes of modern lighter weight vessels aren't.

Go have a beer in one of the worlds cruising cross roads and listen to what the long termers would like best in a boat (not necessarily the same as what they ended up with ;) ) , not many would go for a light weight modern AWB.
 
I read Around the world in Wanderer 3, and beyond the western horizon avidly as a kid. They painted such an incredible picture of what living on a boat and sailing around the world was like.

But it does amuse me that his opinions on boats are still being given so much weight. I can't think of any other field in which 50 year old recommendations would still be thought of as current.

The world has moved on...



It's never long before someone is amused by other's choices on these matters.

Nor that we are told that things have moved on.
 
Go have a beer in one of the worlds cruising cross roads and listen to what the long termers would like best in a boat (not necessarily the same as what they ended up with ;) ) , not many would go for a light weight modern AWB.

Almost all of the long term cruisers I know lust after a Pogo but can't afford one.
 
It's never long before someone is amused by other's choices on these matters.

Nor that we are told that things have moved on.

Nor to be told that there is nothing as good as the old stuff and nothing of value has come along in the last 60 years.

Somebody must be right (or wrong)
 
Nor to be told that there is nothing as good as the old stuff and nothing of value has come along in the last 60 years..


Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I have re-read the whole thread a nobody has said anything of the sort.

In answer to his own question Pete said:

"The Tradewind 35 would certainly be high up on my list....
A very comfortable and seaworthy yacht that performed impeccably."

We would love to know how this becomes, in your mind:
".......there is nothing as good as the old stuff and nothing of value has come along in the last 60 years.."
 
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I have re-read the whole thread a nobody has said anything of the sort.

In answer to his own question Pete said:

"The Tradewind 35 would certainly be high up on my list....
A very comfortable and seaworthy yacht that performed impeccably."

We would love to know how this becomes, in your mind:
".......there is nothing as good as the old stuff and nothing of value has come along in the last 60 years.."

Given that I was not quoting anything other than your observation I was expressing a general sentiment, seeing that 9 of the boats with positive recommendations were designed at least 40 years ago, and several of the others near to that. The whole thread was started by suggesting a 40 year old design which in the words of its designer was intended to capture the ethos of the 1950s.
 
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Given that I was not quoting anything other than your observation I was expressing a general sentiment, seeing that 9 of the boats with positive recommendations were designed at least 40 years ago, and several of the others near to that. The whole thread was started by suggesting a 40 year old design which in the words of its designer was intended to capture the ethos of the 1950s.

So I was correct. A 1961 Cheverton Caravel MK2 IS the right boat to circumnavigate!
 
Given that I was not quoting anything other than your observation I was expressing a general sentiment, seeing that 9 of the boats with positive recommendations were designed at least 40 years ago, and several of the others near to that. The whole thread was started by suggesting a 40 year old design which in the words of its designer was intended to capture the ethos of the 1950s.
Well, that is predicated by the OP's limitation to 40ft. Modern yachts designed for blue water cruising generally don't come less than at least 42ft.

Feel free to recommend good sub-40ft long-range cruisers designed in the last 10 years.
 
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