I understand why mobo's are hated by some raggies

[DAKA]

Daka apologies if coming across as bolshy.

I didnt take it as bolshy, more "oh, looks like I might be wrong, best start a diversion"

I am only following this thread briefly/without much concentration and I gotta admit it has me completely bemused.
We only expect full concentration and 100% accuracy from you, the rest of us can post any old tosh

A summary of this thread, as i see it (interesting)

Various posts - boat handling. I was talking about wash from speed required to make way
Daka/SpottyDog5 - but you gotta go fast in a mobo becuase small rudders and steerage I have an expectation that 50% of sports boats/flybridges are going to be going as fast as owner feels he can get away with
Oldgit - That's feeble weedy excuse. A mobo can be held geostationary in any speed of current
JFM - agrees with Oldgit, as do several others like mapisM
Daka - not if the current is behind you so you have to run the boat astern
JFM - that's still rubbish ( imho my post above re fast tidal rivers contradicts your belief)
Daka - yeah but even though no-one has ever mentioned the river Trent on this thread and only Cala D'Or has been mentioned,I only recall you bringing Cala D'Or into this, only prviously herd of the place as piss up stagg shag hotspot I was actually talking specifically about the river Trent running at 9 knots at least its in the UK
JFM - WTF! Gets Bolshy!

I hope youre smiling yon side

That's a fair summary innit?

Fair and equal but perhaps more equal in your direction

response in blue, some of it anyway, expect some has been *********

I think you are forgetting what it was like , pre stabilizers

The rest of us have to select an anchorage carefully, dropping anchor close to 100 x 35knt boats all rushing to beat the other 99 boats to the best spot is for duck eggs and raggies

 

[DAKA]

Agreed John.

But I've still sent DAKA a second jfm VooDoo doll and a box of pins to calm him down.

He has apologized Doug so I dont need it now thanks

 

[MapisM]

That's a fair summary innit?

ROTFL, 'dunno if it's fair, but it's by far the funniest thread summary I've seen around here!

J/Daka, why don't you start a debate on some subject like, say, religion?
That would be way more interesting than any TV show...

 

[DAKA]

ROTFL, 'dunno if it's fair, but it's by far the funniest thread summary I've seen around here!

J/Daka, why don't you start a debate on some subject like, say, religion?
That would be way more interesting than any TV show...

Its odd really that jfm's specialist 'why didnt every one listen last time' subject is VAT

My specialist ' I told you this would happen, why didnt you listen' subject is dodgy Yacht Brokers

When a dodgy Yacht Broker got banged up for stealing VAT there was hardly a murmur .

 

[oceanfroggie]

Jfm, excellent summary

Small rudders = lame excuse

 

[DAKA]

I dont think you guys have deliberately 'trolled' this thread but can we just have a realistic summary now...............

Original post is about anchoring outside Newton Creek and suffering from wash as boats enter the without speed restriction narrow channel adjacent.

I post to say its a daft place to anchor if you don't like wash.

somehow jfm and I start to talk at crossed purposes, and the thread is turned into a have another go at DAKA day

Here is a recent video showing how I behave while entering an anchorage.

Its a bit dull, wouldnt usually show it, taken from a Blackvue 400 HD, permanently mounted inside the boat. Now I could have posed raggies sailing into my anchor, crossing the Channel in a F7 gusting 8 with seaweed lashing on the lower helm ws but no, here we have a load of raggies screaming slow down, flapping their arms while trying to hold on , mothers shrieking for their kids to get out the water ..................

Alright I agree never to pass an anchorage @ 30 knots but it will niot alter the fact that 30% of fast boats will still fail to slow down enough to avoid wash making your boat uncomfortable so dont choose silly places to stop in busy times , talk about bemused , I cant understand anyone encouraging such moronic stupidity

Bit like someone who enjoys BBQ buying a house at the side of a ****ing sewage farm

Please note the speed limit starts at the yellow buoys.


http://youtu.be/MO-vqiTodAo





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[paultallett]

Daka.....

Quick question?? Where did the comments about water skiing come from?? I didn't mention them, nor did anyone else (but I might of missed that).

I didn't see any water skiing nor flying boats or anything else come to speak about it that might of added to the mix.

 

[DAKA]

Daka.....

Quick question?? Where did the comments about water skiing come from?? I didn't mention them, nor did anyone else (but I might of missed that).

I didn't see any water skiing nor flying boats or anything else come to speak about it that might of added to the mix.

perfectly reasonable question.........

I couldnt be bothered to search through 100s hours of footage to find one of me entering newton creek (not 100% sure if thats where you were or not anyway).
I found one of Studland anchorage, in the past there has been a few complaints about speed boats there.
I will delete reference to it in my post

 

[jfm]

Daka I'm not sure any summary can be relaistic if it doesn't mention the River Trent ?

But moving on, your vid looked like very nice behaviour on your part - 5 knots or so if the (GPS?) readout is correct. I might be misunderstnading your post but are you saying you get into trouble with anchored boats if you approach Studland even at that speed?

And completely separately, you have a vid camera that records GPS speed automatically or do you have to feed it with N2K data or what? Edit - ignore that; just googled it

 

[paultallett]

Just watched your vid Daka. Thats just how I would do it on the way in, you can't ask for any more.

 

[DAKA]

Daka I'm not sure any summary can be relaistic if it doesn't mention the River Trent ?

Alright, but only brought up after others kept pushing
But moving on, your vid looked like very nice behaviour on your part - 5 knots or so if the (GPS?) readout is correct. I might be misunderstnading your post but are you saying you get into trouble with anchored boats if you approach Studland even at that speed?

Yes its absolutely unbelievable what goes on in and around the solent and is very much appropriate to this thread........ having come from a sailing back ground on the East Coast (Humber) and found everyone gets on together very well , I got a real shock on the South Coast.
To begin with I assumed the raggie/stinker thing was a joke/banter but it isnt, there are a significant number of raggies that will do anything possible to wreck your day, as such no matter how you behave , you still get problems which is why I understand why some mobos have got sick to the teeth with it and carry on in a selfish manner( vital for some charter boats if they dont want their guests to be exposed the the rudeness)

True examples

Lymington (@ 3knots) with friends on board

Obscenities shouted

Yarmouth
Serious rudeness for running a generator for 1/2 hour

Cowes
Coughs from 30 ft away after I started my engines (CMD are smoke free)

Raggie 'flapping arms' almost daily even though you can see how slow I go close to other boats (BTW video in mph , 5 mph - 15% = 4 knots )

Raggies sailing deliberately in front of you at the last possible opportunity, I had to get col to replace engine mounts after one emergency stop , not an insignificant cost.

And completely separately, you have a vid camera that records GPS speed automatically or do you have to feed it with N2K data or what? Edit - ignore that; just googled it

The Blackview sits inside the lower helm window, records permanently on a 15gb sd card, you just need to swap cards / save anything of interest before it wipes over (make note of time date for ease of finding).
Integral gps for speed over the ground and you can see your position on google earth .

One slight issue if you decide to install one, its designed for motor cars and has a G force sensor to record impact severity. You need to reduce the incident record or every time you hit a large wave the incident will be saved which soon fills up the 15gb.

If you mount one front and rear on your boat you should never miss that unforgettable moment again
or catch which raggie keeps taking a slash in your fresh water tank

 

[jfm]

Thanks Daka
I guess I am very out of touch with Solent these days. Blimey, that amount of hostility makes it seem a loss less fun that when I was a regular there (10 years ago). I was hoping to do some Solent cruising next spring before new boat is shipped to the Med but maybe i wont bother!

 

[DAKA]

Thanks Daka
I guess I am very out of touch with Solent these days. Blimey, that amount of hostility makes it seem a loss less fun that when I was a regular there (10 years ago). I was hoping to do some Solent cruising next spring before new boat is shipped to the Med but maybe i wont bother!

Its still great fun

You will notice a huge difference in the amount of mobos actually casting off along with a noticeable amount of charter boats @ 10 knots presumably conserving fuel ?

The few mobos left get all the attention of the few awkward raggies (minority) , most are happy to join you for a pontoon chat at least even if its to poke fun at the amount it has cost to get there !

 

[gjgm]

Thanks Daka
I guess I am very out of touch with Solent these days. Blimey, that amount of hostility makes it seem a loss less fun that when I was a regular there (10 years ago). I was hoping to do some Solent cruising next spring before new boat is shipped to the Med but maybe i wont bother!

Yes, alot less motor boats, full stop. Alot less actually leaving the pontoon. I think there are more sailing boats.
Otherwise not so much changes. Some mobos cause too much wash and some raggies complain whatever, but most of the time life goes on peacefully
I think the main difference is if you leave the Solent. You dont see mobos at sea.

 

[oceanfroggie]

Another DP special

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB0MYMv_mA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[Chrusty 1]

Another DP special

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB0MYMv_mA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Half a mile wide is a narrow channel????? Silly bugger.

 

[BosnBill]

Mobo's are inconsiderate to mobo's at times. I was being towed at 7.5 knots by a professional towing service this weekend through a narrow channel when an impatient 36 ft (11 meter) motor yacht gave us two blasts of the horn, passing to port as it poured on the steam. It came within 12 feet (3.5 meters), rocking us and the inflatable towing vessel unmercifully. It was a new boat, shiny black hull with burnished brightwork, loaded to the hilt with passengers. The cap was no doubt trying to impress his passengers and crew.

 

[DAKA]

Another DP special

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB0MYMv_mA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I suspected you were on a friendly little troll previously but really didnt expect it of you but after your outrageous introduction of the above video upsetting chrusty which has nothing at all to do with wash in anchorages its very clear, youre not catching me twice in the same thread

 

[Chrusty 1]

I suspected you were on a friendly little troll previously but really didnt expect it of you but after your outrageous introduction of the above video upsetting chrusty which has nothing at all to do with wash in anchorages its very clear, youre not catching me twice in the same thread

Ney lad, wasn't upset, just that his idea of a narrow channel and mine are worlds apart! Seems to me more than ever that the Solent is somewhere I don't want to be.

Has it really come to pass that people are upsetting other sailors just because they can?

 

[oceanfroggie]

Narrow channel for us is circa 30 meters on some inshore passages or 15m x 160m getting into our marina with boats moored either side, wind and current added to the mx. It's a bit like flying, learn to fly a light aircraft from a short slooped single runway mountain top field with loads of obstructions, or from a choice of 10,000 ft airport runways teaches one different comfort zones and envelopes.