Help please!

[Steve101]

Moody my arse! Warning : Strong language!

It's a little after 6.30 and I just checked me fax machine and email and guess what? No quote! I'll check my post in the morning just in case they did it the old fashioned way, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm seriously considering telling them to f**k off. If I get this kind of service before I buy the boat what will I get when I've got it?

This is so frustrating as I've heard such good things from Peter Gough, perhaps now they have decided to concentrate on the 47 market they don't care about the little people!

 

[Steve101]

C'mon Kim ban him! He deserves to spnd a night in the sin bin with Marylin the fat biker skinhead!

 

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[jimi]

Yes please!

If I had the dosh I'd go for the Najad 42 ... if did'nt and I were in Steve's position I'd have a good look at the 2nd hand market as

1) I'd get on the water quicker
2) There must be some end of season bargains out there

Was Marilyn's head smooth or was it all bumpy?

Where's Nicho gone .. I reckon its a ploy so we all lose interest in his thread!

Jim

 

[Guest]

Re: Rustler 36

Well, if you do buy one, don't expect it to work out of the box, or to hold its value.

And if you are foolish enough to go for the tiller steering, don't expect to be able to hold a course upwind in a decent breeze unless you're Geoff Capes' beefier brother.

There are classic long keeled yachts that sail like a dream, and there's the Rustler 36, a plastic abomination that's so painful to sail that most of its owners sneak off on long term cruises after buying them for a fortune out of embarrassment at their terrible costly mistake. Oh, and don't believe the 'hand built quality' nonsense. You'll be revarnishing the companionway steps after 18 months.

Apart from that though, they're great.

Personally, I'd rather have a Moody (and that's saying something).

 

[jimi]

Do\'nt like \'em then?

NM

Jim

 

[Guest]

Re: Do\'nt like \'em then?

Nope. Not a lot.

 

[jimi]

Re: Do\'nt like \'em then?

Is it because HRH the PR has got one?

Jim

 

[Gerry]

Re: Moody my arse! Warning : Strong language!

Get a Bowman 42. No better boat, she'll look after you and the family in all weathers. Room for almost all the extras you will ever want.

 

[Steve101]

Re: Moody my arse! Warning : Strong language!

Thanks for the reply. I don't suppose you have a contact number do you?

Cheers

Steve

 

[kidnapped]

Re: Do\'nt like \'em then?

I think 'had' would be more up todate.
Steve, you've got to slow down and really think about this purchase. This Moody was never designed to take all the extras you want, so they probably cannot be retro'd as suggested elsewhere.
It's also a very expensive idea to buy new and then sell in a 'year or two' to get what you really want.[Brokers 8% + depr]
Look around for a good 2nd hand cruiser,heavier build, and enjoy some one elses depr! Alot of your extras will be onboard and then you can have fun adding 'nice to have v. need to have'

 

[Jeremy_W]

Re: Moody my arse! Warning : Strong language!

A great yacht - but Steve's a newcomer to close handling a yacht under power in marinas. 38-foot would be bad enough but you're adding an extra four feet, a lot of weight and I guess a stack of money to step up to the 42.

 

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[Steve101]

Re: Bowman 42 - Piano

You say "they bought the mould and build to order" I have an "ideal" boat plan that would fit a 42' is this something they could do do you think and is it something within my budget (£150k). Just stretching your time a little more, are there boat builders that would do it for that kind of money?
I know I'm getting out of my depth here, but I'm learning everyday thanks to this forum and this kind of boat would mean that I could wait until the 2004 season to take delivery!

 

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[Steve101]

Re: Bowman 42 - Piano

Thanks Brian, at least I have a starting point now. I'm not writing off the Moody just yet, but without a doubt if I can get exactly what I want first time round then I sooner do that.

Cheers


Steve

 

[Jeremy_W]

Re: Bowman 42 - Piano

The high production type of yacht builder - Beneteau/Jeanneau/Bavaria/Moody will give you a limited range of accom options.

The bigger the yacht the smaller the production run and the more choice you'll have AT A PRICE. You'll also notice how the builders, like Rival Bowman periodically go bust. There is also a superb range of Nicholson hulls, for example. You can buy a hull then choose a builder to fit it out, exactly as you wish.

But I don't think a new Bowman 42 is in your stated price range.

 

[Steve101]

Re: Bowman 42 - Piano

Right then, I buy a hull. I take to the guy at the end off my street and he fits it out for me (He fit interiors for boats. NO JOKE. He had an old Hatteras on his drive for 12 months once. It was bloody massive!) Then what? Does this guy do the winches, mast, engine? Or do I take it somewhere else for that? All this may seem somewhat childlike in my questioning, but as far as boats are concerned, that's about my level.

How will I know it's sea worthy? Ocean going?

 

[graham]

Have you put some mackerel feathers on the extras list?You will need them for trolling when you get afloat. Also need a large stick for flogging a dead horse and A shovel for picking up male cow manure.

 

[Jeremy_W]

Re: Bowman 42 - Piano

I'd guess a "guy at the end of the street" in Staffordshire might only do the interior. As an example, Libby Purves and Paul Heiney delivered the bare hull of their Cornish Crabber 30 from Cornwall to an established boatbuilder in Woodbridge, Suffolk for completion and that boatbuilder did everything up to and including the launch ceremony of the completed yacht. Apparently you need to find one accustomed to working on that size of yacht or they'll spend the entire time at the limits of their experience, wasting your money.

But custom yachts are usually built for the sailor who has tried various options on previous yachts and can choose between them on the basis of considrable experience.

>>>How do I know...? By sailing a completed version of the same yacht, perhaps at a yacht brokers or on a sailing school course.