Got the new DEKPA today in Preveza

[Mr Cassandra]

I seem to remember that if you joined the RYA they issued a ICC free.
Is this still the case, or am I wrong?.

 

[miyagimoon]

I seem to remember that if you joined the RYA they issued a ICC free.
Is this still the case, or am I wrong?.

Correct, ICC's are free to RYA Members. My wife has just renewed hers FOC.

 

[macd]

I seem to remember that if you joined the RYA they issued a ICC free.
Is this still the case, or am I wrong?.

True, as miyagimoon wrote, but only if you show evidence of suitable qualifications. If you've had an ICC before, they'll have this on file and it can be renewed with nothing more than a completed form and a passport-style photo. Takes about three weeks unless you pay for express service.

This is the link to the application form, which will explain further (if desired, it also allows you to join at the same time): http://www.rya.org.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/cruising/Web Documents/Boating Abroad/ICC Form.pdf

 

[[29051]]

I am more than a little concerned,I have tried to get copy's of my certificates, but have failed .I do have my commercial tickets but no ICc.

Hopefully you can use your commercial ticket to get an an ICC from the RYA as that would be a permanent solution. You only need a photocopy to send to them. I don't suppose you have a copy of your lost certificate anywhere ? I keep copies of passport, driving licence, certificates etc in drop box.

I know someone who had the same problem with renewing his Turkish transit log. Marmaris were insisting British sailors needed a qualification, although they said French ones didn't as France had no system. That particular office simply wouldn't believe there were no qualifications required in the UK. He scanned someone else's day skipper certificate, changed the name, printed it in colour, and had it laminated. They are very happy with that !

 

[Chris_Robb]

Th sounds pretty good then. Only 1 query left now -----what if you have multiple owners who might not be with you?? Thanks for the info

Until we get an answer to this problem, I suggest you get a Notarised copy of the passports - they should accept them. They just need to be able to fill in the boxes.

 

[bobthecook]

Just had a look at my DEKPA the 5ives for May look so like 8`s for August.

 

[A1Sailor]

I am more than a little concerned,I have tried to get copy's of my certificates, but have failed .I do have my commercial tickets but no ICc.

Don't worry. I'm sure bobthecock will support you and tell the RYA what a sound chap you are. From what I hear you are very close friends.

 

[Mr Cassandra]

Well, I have spent the last couple of days trying to sort out replacement certificates.The RYA does not have any records from before 2011.
I am trying to fine which was/is the School run by John Goode in the Southampton area, as a last resort to see if they kept records?.
I am, booked to drive down to Aegina Greece next week with tunnel and ferry boat paid for. Cannot cancel as I have friends from Austrailia coming on !st of May No ICC courses available this week, not that I could pass one without a little instruction after 20years +on non tidal waters
I now am very concerned, any good ideas

 

[SarahJ]

Southern Sailing gives address as Southampton Water Activities Centre, tel 023 8091 5753. Would they have contact for you? Otherwise weekend ICC in solent (commodore yachting etc.) or the sailing school on Aegina?
Best of luck.

 

[Mr Cassandra]

I am told they have closed down by the people that run Southern sailing

I just tried contacting one of the sailing instructors from Aegina via facebook. See what he has to say then will try Melody of this parish.
thanks

 

[Mr Cassandra]

I am in a sailing group on facebook and am getting reports that some Port Police are not issuing new DEKpas just stamping the old ones .
Has anyone tried for a stamp in Poros or Aegina ?

 

[sailaboutvic]

I am in a sailing group on facebook and am getting reports that some Port Police are not issuing new DEKpas just stamping the old ones .
Has anyone tried for a stamp in Poros or Aegina ?

this is the case in some places , we had a new DEPKA this year but I know of other who have had just there old one stamp .
This is going to depend where you go .

 

[Chris_Robb]

I am in a sailing group on facebook and am getting reports that some Port Police are not issuing new DEKpas just stamping the old ones .
Has anyone tried for a stamp in Poros or Aegina ?

Bob - we know that supplies have been going out recently to the Islands, so could you ask your facebook group where and when, as things may have made it out of date. We are talking to the Hellenic Coast Guard at the moment - bit of a oneway conversation - and need to feed back to them specific issues - I cannot deal in hearsay - they must be facts.

Please advise your group on Facebook, that they should not assume that they will get away with it till next year. We think there is a deadline of Sept 2017 for EVERYONE to have the new form - there are some big fines for non compliance - and say its the owners duty to know the Law. The problem is we cannot clarify it!

The other Issue is the business of how we pay. It is unacceptable if people have to go round the houses to find the tax office etc. Going to a local bank is more acceptable, entering a credit card is ideal - but pigs might fly.

 

[sailaboutvic]

Bob - we know that supplies have been going out recently to the Islands, so could you ask your facebook group where and when, as things may have made it out of date. We are talking to the Hellenic Coast Guard at the moment - bit of a oneway conversation - and need to feed back to them specific issues - I cannot deal in hearsay - they must be facts.

Please advise your group on Facebook, that they should not assume that they will get away with it till next year. We think there is a deadline of Sept 2017 for EVERYONE to have the new form - there are some big fines for non compliance - and say its the owners duty to know the Law. The problem is we cannot clarify it!

The other Issue is the business of how we pay. It is unacceptable if people have to go round the houses to find the tax office etc. Going to a local bank is more acceptable, entering a credit card is ideal - but pigs might fly.

Chris
We had to buy a new one has the boat we have now didn't have ,
The way we had to go about it was the same way overstag describe in his posting ,
PP , tax office , bank , back to PP .
Someone I know is based in Corfu and he reported on his Facebook page , three people he know had to pay 400e tax ,
to be honest I am 99% sure the info he been given isn't correct , more then likely hearsay .
we know people who also had a new DEPKA in Corfu and they just had to buy a new one for 50 e .
Has we know there is going to be different PP acting I. Different ways .

 

[Mr Cassandra]

Bob - we know that supplies have been going out recently to the Islands, so could you ask your facebook group where and when, as things may have made it out of date. We are talking to the Hellenic Coast Guard at the moment - bit of a oneway conversation - and need to feed back to them specific issues - I cannot deal in hearsay - they must be facts.

Please advise your group on Facebook, that they should not assume that they will get away with it till next year. We think there is a deadline of Sept 2017 for EVERYONE to have the new form - there are some big fines for non compliance - and say its the owners duty to know the Law. The problem is we cannot clarify it!

The other Issue is the business of how we pay. It is unacceptable if people have to go round the houses to find the tax office etc. Going to a local bank is more acceptable, entering a credit card is ideal - but pigs might fly.

I don't know them personally,but they said it was Cos.
I have commercial tickets for fishing boats, 5 in total Approved by the Maritime and Coastguard Agency and Sea fishing industry Authority. They have the EU flag on them plus helo..which allows me to Skipper a 300 ton boat ,I think.

Do you think that these would be accepted?

 

[NornaBiron]

Bob - we know that supplies have been going out recently to the Islands, so could you ask your facebook group where and when, as things may have made it out of date. We are talking to the Hellenic Coast Guard at the moment - bit of a oneway conversation - and need to feed back to them specific issues - I cannot deal in hearsay - they must be facts.

Hi Chris,

With regards to this:

On the 4th April one of the FB Med Sailing group members reported that he had just booked into Kos with the PPs and they had used his old DEKPA, a new one was not issued

On 4th March I had our old DEKPA stamped in Lakki, Leros PPs office (by a senior PP) and he said it was now good for a year.

Reports from the FB page are that members who have been to the PPs in Agios Nikolaos have been issued/bought a new DEKPA.

Do you use FB? If so I can add you as a group member.

 

[vyv_cox]

We think there is a deadline of Sept 2017 for EVERYONE to have the new form - there are some big fines for non compliance - and say its the owners duty to know the Law. The problem is we cannot clarify it!

Unlikely that we will get to Greece this year but the boat is there. There is no way I know of to prove that we did not use the boat in 2017, although I suppose the marina would write something to say that we did not launch. This would not apply if we wintered in the water. I would be interested to know how we/they will cope with that?

 

[Chris_Robb]

Unlikely that we will get to Greece this year but the boat is there. There is no way I know of to prove that we did not use the boat in 2017, although I suppose the marina would write something to say that we did not launch. This would not apply if we wintered in the water. I would be interested to know how we/they will cope with that?

That is precisely the kind of question we want answered. And its like visiting the dentist:disgust: !! Be assured that we pressing very hard.

To get round the problem of Part ownership - where all passports have to be presented to get a New form DEKPA - I have amended my SSR details to remove the other owners. From a legal point of view it carries no weight at all - so on shared boats just select one of the owners (whose eyes are not too close together) and register - just £25 squids.

Just received the new SSR certificate today - it only took 5 days- and for some reason the length got altered from 12.1 to 11.94 meters. There must be a funny quirk in the software:nonchalance:

 

[steveghoward]

So, I have both day and coastal skipper certificates, the latter with a commercial endorsement, but both are on the boat, on the hard, in Greece.

What I can't fathom from the above threads is

A: are these suitable to take to the pp as a relevant licence, or

B: Do I have to photocopy these, post them to the RYA and wait up to 21 days to send an ICC, by which time, we will have been launched?

Sigh........ I'm too old for this....

 

[JonJon]

If its any comfort they accepted my coastal skipper ticket for my original DEKPA they also accepted sailaboutvic's driving license so probably not a problem. I agree what a palaver they make out of it all. Its another EU country why not just take the 50 euros and give you the new DEKPA?