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Re: More therapy....

"The one thing you shouldn't worry about is being seen making mistakes, no one really cares "

and I'm told often think there but for the grace of God go I !!!!
 

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Be Fearful!

Be fearful Nicho, a little fear should be always with you and is a good thing. Be most wary of over confidence and thinking that you know it all. That is when real mistakes are made which really dangerous if not fatal. Good to have you join the fraternity, I wish you fair winds, clear skies and plane sailing.
 
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I have been sailing since 1954 and still get it wrong and learn from it, it is part of the pleasure. In marinas very slow and loads of fenders. Out on the water start with lightish winds and practice tacking, gybing, running it is afterall you and your crew. rapidly start going out in stronger winds. A friend converted from a Princess 45 to a HR42, he was/ is one of the best boat handlers under power and sail I know. Main thing is do not be afraid to try something. Those who laugh at people who make mistakes are in my view those who do not have the nerve to try or simply sail yacht club bars,

If you bend the boat they are not that expensive to fix...


go and enjoy



Courtesy is an iota but makes the world go round
 
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Note Bene

remember all Nicho is an experienced boater and will have no trouble navigating, handling the boat under power etc the ONLY thing that is new to him is sail handling and handling a boat under sail

Courtesy is an iota but makes the world go round
 

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Disagree with the others about being fearful. Be respectful, but not fearful. Get out there and have a good time!
 

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Re: respect/fear

nicho has obvious respect for the sea, his thoughts about the forthcoming events, eg putting the sails up, a little indecision etc all indicate the natural reaction of fear. Hence his comments about feeling edgy. It is a routine thought process that we all go through;

Event, thought, feeling, behaviour.

Allbeit in this case the event hasn't happened yet, the imagination is developing the thoughts which in turn induce feelings and bring about the behaviour.
 

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OK, I\'ll say it then...

What everyone's been too shy to say is that if you can drive the RAC Rally, then a Bav 36 should hold no fears for you!!

Enjoy your new boat. And try to avoid "special stages"!
 

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Don't forget Nicho that all these old salts got their expertise by doing exactly what you're about to do - taking a boat out on the water and sailing . There's simply no other way of doing it.
 

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Do\'nt worry ...

Nicki, do'nt worry you'll be insured anyway. I was in a similar position with a big boat I did'nt know how to sail but I picked it up with the help of some very dear friends. I managed to sink my boat once but the navy got it back for me as I knew an admiral quite well. Do you know any nice sailors? If you want you can come and play on my boat for a while, ask Coliholic, I can make it an interesting time. Is your wife really broad in the beam?

I've been away for a little while, circumstances outside my control, but the parole board seem a bit happier again.
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Re: Rally

David, I certainly remember the name, though in my advancing years and subsequent memory loss, I cannot place where I may have met him. Sorry to hear he's passed away whatever (SO many friends are succombing to various ailmants lately - must be my age!). Any idea wher he was a what he did?
 

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Re: Rally

Not sure how old he was, but he had had a fair innings.

He was in his day a successful driver with either a win or podium place in the Monte Carlo rally.

Went on to become one of the countries leading car retailers, specialising in Volvo. He was one of the earliest Volvo dealers, in the days when their cars stood out for being bulletproof and great performers.

He had various boats over the years and my father used to helm for him, they won many inshore and offshore races together (mainly in the North Wales area) but in particular I remember a wooden Folkboat he had, Sucu Sucu, which won most of the races, especially the heavy weather ones.

My own contact with the sport is limited to a trip around Donnington with Roger Clarke when they launched the A4 about 8-9 years ago, white knuckle ride for me, a cruise for him, at least until Dereck Bell went round him on a bend!
 

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All the best

Nicho
I wish you well, have good fun with YOUR new boat. The only way to learn is to do it for yourself, having a pro on board is OK but don't let him take over otherwise you'll not feel confident when he's not there. If you have an experienced friend then invite them along to help out, thats the best way to learn.
You have Day Skipper, so start off gently and build up. The sails may not be trimed exactly right, but who cares? If the boats moving forward you'll get there. Take it slowly in marina's, eventually you will get the boat alongside and moored up, dont be afraid to ask someone for help on the pontoon. I have always found that boaters in general are always prepared to help those who are new to the sport of sailing.
One final thought, when you've got her alongside and tied up, sitting in the cockpit and have a G&T in your hand, you will feel a great sense of satisfaction.
All the best mate.
 

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Re: All the best

Having read throught all those encouraging posts, and realising that with the sails down, your boat becomes just a relatively clumsy motor boat, so you can handle the manoeuvering, nav and stuff ok, I am just mentioning subjects which have not been covered above very well. The first WILL happen to you, the second is to be avoided like the plague.

Squall. Best way to deal with them is anticipation - you really must see them coming. If you get hit by a squall, even if unexpected, don't do as suggested and let your sails flog. Nothing will put your spouse of sailing quicker than the nasty gut-ripping that thrashing sails can make - even fully battened. Reel in the genoa somewhat, and heave-to, then drop the main and get the motor on, before getting going again. This is specifically for such time until you know better! You can just reef and keep going, but you may find the previous suggestions best for a while.

Stuck on putty. Don't. This is the most demoralising of all sailing nasties. Falling tide, play very safe, go down river, not up. When tacking in a channel, tack well before the edges and watch your chart and depth like a hawk. You don't have MB power to pull back off with any certainty, and hitting sandy bottoms can damage your keel v. badly.

Navigation. Go nowhere without a paper chart, whatever else you have, and have 2 GPS. Figure out how you can navigate if you get seasick like never before, cos you may have to.

Seasick. I expect from MB you know your own resistivity to SSness, and will be aware of wind against tide and what it can do to the motion of a boat. A sailing boat under sail in these short cross-seas is infinitely preferable to a sailing boat under motor butting the waves and wind. Keep the main sail up, or as much as appropriate, as much as you can. [resistance to SSness is decreased by a big factor when you are sailing your own boat as a new owner, butterflies turn into something worse v easily].


(I don't have to agree with YOUR opinions, but I'll defend your right to express them).
 

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