It is compared with the other boats being considered here. Angus Primrose was the first production boat designer of flat bottomed, fin keel, wide beam boats. The 33/36/39 were derided at the time as not bein seaworthy boats but now held up as good examples of liveaboard ocean cruisers. They set the template for a whole generation of mainly British built boats including the 29 and its successor Moody designs by Bill Dixon.Designed in 1980! Modern? 45 year old design. You have never said that before
Since then we have boats of the same length that are wider, they now have swept back spreaders, twin wheels, twin rudders lower ballast ratios and saildrives as standard. These boats have the description of modern. Nothing from 45 years ago bears any resemblance to current modern.
Like other things there are a range of “generations”. The Fulmar is a clear generation (or two?) newer design than the Twister. The Moody 29 linked to is, design wise, closer to the Fulmar generation.
There us something deeply satisfying about varnishing.I’d take the fulmar, or any other plastic boat as I already have my hands full, varnish wise
All things in moderation.
OMG! I hate it. So glad to not have any external Varnish other than the companionway opening and cockpit table. Semco on the teak in the cockpit is about my limit and the Mrs normally does that.
My varnish work is on a 20ft boat, so its done in a heated workshop in the non sailing months.
That's cheating. More like doing the interior varnish work
She’s only a baby. Being painted here, that is outsideThat's cheating. More like doing the interior varnish work
You can define "modern" in any way that suits your argument. In the context of this thread a Moody 29 is modern. Nobody is talking about the sort of boats you describe here, desirable though they are - just not in the frame when you only have £20k to spend on a small coastal cruising boat which is what the OP is after.
Oxford dictionary meaning of 'modern'
I've raced those at a couple of corporate days from a yacht club, whose name i forget, vased on the IOW . Lovely jeel boats and i thought similar to the Burnham one designs.
The OP fekked off on post 54 and hasnt been heard of since. Probably at clarke and carters buying a beneteau 50 with air con and a shower.That last sentence is a bit presumptuous John, sure most folk will never be in those extreme conditions, but then most folk just coastal sail and choose their weather.
We have no idea if the OP will be most folk or if he will be one of the tiny minority to point his bow westward and head off round the planet in a few years time.
And again, while almost every tub and bucket under the sun can cross an ocean, some folk will choose a design that is proven to look after you if you are unlucky enough to encounter strong gales en route.
Anyway, the answer is obvious is it not? If he has read any other threads he should get a vancouver
The Cal 40 was a fin keel and spade rudders. First built in 1963. Last produced in the 1971. They built 160 of them. A friend races one. He even did the Caribbean 600 last year.
What about Rustler yachts, and Island Packet, and Kraken etc? There are still some chunky ol’ boats being made today. Like I said, exceptions to every rule.
The EG Van De Stadt designed Pioneer 9 was a 30ft grp boat designed in 1959, so the fin and rudder design was a lot older than 1980. He had been using this design with wooden boats throughout the 1950's. The later Pioneer 10 might be a useful model for the OP, certainly well within the budget.
In terms of buying a sub £20K boat of that size and type 1980 is modern compared with the alternatives. You really are struggling to understand the issues by diverting to boats that have no relevance to the OP.
