Fray Bentos - the critic's speak out

"you take off the lid. With a tin opener. I’m only telling you that because it took me a wee while to figure it out and I was smacking it with a fork and other utensils for ages before I realised."


Does this not tell us something about the author of the article?????
 
Have you never eaten the food dished out to naval ratings? I was in a Colony class cruiser in the 1960s and the NAAFI shop did a roaring trade selling tinned food that we used to heat up on illicit hot plates that were carefully hidden when OOW's rounds were due. Heinz sausage-and-beans was especially popular, as I remember. Anything was better than the awful stuff that came out of the ratings' galley

We also had a scam going whereby one lad in our mess, who ran a private hammock-scrubbing service, had a deal going with the officers' cooks, so we used to get illicit fry-ups from the officers' galley. These were carried down to our messdeck in conditions of Colditz-like secrecy.

That was in the days when food was eaten in the messdeck. On my next ship, HMS Victorious, we had a communal dining (dining seems hardly an appropriate term) area and queued up with compartmentalised steel trays into which your entire meal was dumped. Bad weather produced some interesting food combinations as each compartment overflowed into its neighbour. :eek:

So your Reverence if, after that scathing experience in my formative years, I enjoy the occasional Fray Bentos pie, can't you find it in your heart to forgive me? :D
Of course you're forgiven - but the dining experience in the Navy nowadays is very different to yours. Firstly there is only one galley - so all the food is prepared by the same chefs and the same food goes to the Seniors, Wardroom and Junior Rates serving hatches. I sometimes eat with the Junior Rates - although conversation is challenging as its usually a hurried get in, eat it, get out for them - with not much time to sit and chat. More to the point the Ratings on my last ship got more choice than in the Wardroom. They frequently had courses availablem to them that weren't on the menu in our mess. The only ships I can think of currently in service that have separate galleys for the WR are the Type 22 batch 3's - and they have just been axed under the latest SDR.

What amazes me is that the Can-man on my last ship did a roaring trade in fats food - depsite the ratings admitting the food in the galley was quite good. They just seem to be addicted to flavour enhancers, fat and sugar.
 
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Everybody seems to be missing the point about FB pies. The tins make excellent storage containers for nuts and bolts, split pins, and loads of other small items. This is at home rather than on the boat. I've got loads of them which means I must have eaten loads of them. S & K hat is.
I'm still alive and well at 70.
Dave
 
Saw some FB pies the other day in Pound Saver, never knowingly eaten one, altho' I'm a Yorkshireman. Never had any problems with mess deck food, neither canteen or cafeteria messing, certainly there were complaints, most frequenly from those who most likely had not experienced good food, there was much poverty in the late forties.
Swmbo and my son say I'll eat anything, but God has blessed me with a good appetite and digestion.
 
Everybody seems to be missing the point about FB pies. The tins make excellent storage containers for nuts and bolts, split pins, and loads of other small items. This is at home rather than on the boat. I've got loads of them which means I must have eaten loads of them. S & K hat is.
I'm still alive and well at 70.
Dave
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0176532/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CHome+and+furniture%7C14417894/c_2/3%7C15701246%7CStorage+and+shelving%7C14417975/c_3/4%7Ccat_14417975%7CStorage+baskets+and+boxes%7C14417980.htmCongratulations on 70 years young. At 50 something I have already outlived my father... (Heart attack - died when I was a student.)
 
........... there were complaints, most frequenly from those who most likely had not experienced good food, ....

Reminds me of the story about the sailing ship master who bought a lot of cheap caviar whilst his ship was in a Russian port.

A deputation of the crew came aft to complain that the blackberry jam tasted fishy.
 
Reminds me of the story about the sailing ship master who bought a lot of cheap caviar whilst his ship was in a Russian port.

A deputation of the crew came aft to complain that the blackberry jam tasted fishy.

It would have been a shock if that is what they were expecting, but that would have been an unheard of luxury anyway - most probably apocryphal.
 

The compartments of the Argos thing don't look big enough to hold the FB S&K pie tins! And at £12.95 that's nearly 13 Morrisons pies!
Can't figure out how to put a smily in!
Dave
 
Fray Bentos pies are the reason for my dislike of gimbals for cookers. I was duty cook on a delivery trip from Clyde to Granton of a 40 ft Morgan Giles ketch. I was heating two pies in the oven and tinned potatoes and peas in two pots on the top (fortunately IN the tins and un-pierced). When the pies were heated, I opened the oven door, took the first one out and finding no-where else to put it, laid it on the door. The cooker tilted on its gimbals and the second pie slid off the shelf, cleared the door and landed upside down on the floor. Unfortunately I lost control at this point .
You obviously weren't paying attention at the relevant part of the 'Cooking on a Boat for Beginners' course; what you describe has nothing whatsoever to do with pies per se.

On OYC vessels it used to be (probably still is) customary to maintain a stash of 'rat pies' as the FBPs were known. Only to be broached in the event of being storm bound somewhere remote. I haven't eaten one for years and while I would not actually choose to, as something to keep in reserve for desperate moments (with a bottle of malt nearby to rinse one's mouth afterwards) I think they have their place.
 
FB Season

Well it is this time of year again and the family can look forward to my next trip to the boat when any food that will not last past next season will come home for consumption. That will include a few FB pies and Corned Beef for hash as well as chicken in white wine sauce. Boat Food.

A well cooked FB pie is an excellent meal for £1 and after a cold wet sail cannot be beaten.

I do know that youngest will spot such fayre and arrange urgent visits to friends at supper time, Who cares it all the more for me.
 
Have you never eaten the food dished out to naval ratings? I was in a Colony class cruiser in the 1960s and the NAAFI shop did a roaring trade selling tinned food that we used to heat up on illicit hot plates that were carefully hidden when OOW's rounds were due. Heinz sausage-and-beans was especially popular, as I remember. Anything was better than the awful stuff that came out of the ratings' galley

We also had a scam going whereby one lad in our mess, who ran a private hammock-scrubbing service, had a deal going with the officers' cooks, so we used to get illicit fry-ups from the officers' galley. These were carried down to our messdeck in conditions of Colditz-like secrecy.

That was in the days when food was eaten in the messdeck. On my next ship, HMS Victorious, we had a communal dining (dining seems hardly an appropriate term) area and queued up with compartmentalised steel trays into which your entire meal was dumped. Bad weather produced some interesting food combinations as each compartment overflowed into its neighbour. :eek:

So your Reverence if, after that scathing experience in my formative years, I enjoy the occasional Fray Bentos pie, can't you find it in your heart to forgive me? :D


Gosh, you bring back memories !:D
HMS Victorious was a frequent visitor to Gib, HM Dockyard, for visits, refits etc.,
I went on a 5 day cruise on her with my dad after a refit here in 1963 or thereabouts and experienced the very gastronomic detail you have described. :D
Pressed Stainless steel trays and Eating Irons .LOL.
Mashed potato, sausages, beans, fried eggs, ketchup, LOL.
Light grey mess tables with aluminium rims...
...and tea by the pint...LOL.
 
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The thing with these FBs is they are the very devil to open, is what I find...
They are not tamed by rotary tin openers. You have to use one of the pronged heave ho models. The tins are an akward shape.
Apart from that they make for a good meal in port after a cold blustery day at sea.

Now I don't know whether he is a member here, but there is a chap who has a Westerly Consort Duo and is based in the Azores.

From time to time, he sails across to here, and cleans out Morrisons Supermarket of FBs, then sails away and comes back all the way to replenish when he runs out.:D
 
I can live with FB pies, although their contents are a little short on meat. What I have never really liked are the canned potatoes.
 
I can live with FB pies, although their contents are a little short on meat. What I have never really liked are the canned potatoes.

Then roast them in the oven while you have it on for the pie, makes them a little, just a little, more tasty
 
I think we've found Heston Blumenthal's next "nostalgia resurrection" project! :D

Yes.:D
Breaded Cod, Chips, HP Sauce, Mugs of Tea.
Tannoy in the background...
Banter and laughter in the mess....:D

Shore Patrol, Hemp Hawsers, Ratguards, Smell of Tar, Fresh Paint, Grey Gangways, Pipes, Bunting, Jolly Boats, OIl and Tar....:D

Wrens !!!!

(I love the Wrens, hoo doesn't)

Nearly all gone, sadly...:(
 
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