Expensive watches on boats.

[thinwater]

Aren’t we free to make our own lifestyle choices or must they be subject to other people’s judgement?

If you post them here they are all subject to judgment.

 

[Metalicmike]

Time passes too fast without having a constant reminder on my wrist, if I need the time I check my phone thereby confirming that know one has nicked it whilst not attracting attention from an eager eyed mugger.

 

[Metalicmike]

If I had an electric car I would not be able to get to my boat as its 800 Km away and the battery would run out before I get there.

If I recharged it would take days to get there

New batteries promising thousands of miles per charge, like to see the electric meter spinning when they are charging.

 

[ghostlymoron2]

It can also be a bit closer to home. 13th Commandment "thou must buy an electric car"

I've recently traded my ancient Audi A4 for a 5 year old Toyota Corolla hybrid. I wanted something smaller (easier to park), economical and durable. I had foresworn hybrids because I was not persuaded by the apparent economy. However several friends had got them and achieved consumption in the 70s. So I'm happy but still can't understand how they achieve it.
Incidentally they are not cheap - I could have had a Jaguar XF for the same money. (Same age and mileage)

 

[ghostlymoron2]

New batteries promising thousands of miles per charge, like to see the electric meter spinning when they are charging.

Electric power is much more efficient than petrol power ( I once heard that only 70% of diesel is converted to useful power, The remaining 30% is mostly heat, great for warming the water for a shower but a lot of it has to be dissipated)

 

[lustyd]

New batteries promising thousands of miles per charge, like to see the electric meter spinning when they are charging.

If you use the right provider they pay you to charge your car at home.

 

[Refueler]

I've recently traded my ancient Audi A4 for a 5 year old Toyota Corolla hybrid. I wanted something smaller (easier to park), economical and durable. I had foresworn hybrids because I was not persuaded by the apparent economy. However several friends had got them and achieved consumption in the 70s. So I'm happy but still can't understand how they achieve it.
Incidentally they are not cheap - I could have had a Jaguar XF for the same money. (Same age and mileage)

The early hybrids I was told were not all they were cracked up to be in terms of economy. Later they improved of course.

Jag XF .... when I was looking at adding to my vehicle fleet - it was either Jag XF 3.0 Turbo Diesel or Range Rover ... plumped for the TDV8 4.4ltr Range Rover ... surprisingly economical for its size. But the Jag - especially the 2.0ltr has very good figures ...

 

[Metalicmike]

No Car no hassle, have boat

 

[thinwater]

Electric power is much more efficient than petrol power ( I once heard that only 70% of diesel is converted to useful power, The remaining 30% is mostly heat, great for warming the water for a shower but a lot of it has to be dissipated)

Yes ... and no. First, making electricity is only about 33-45% efficient (the rest is waste heat or consumed internally). Then another 5-7% is lost in transmission (voltage drop in the lines). Then there is another 8% hysteresis in charging batteries (you charge at a higher voltage than you withdraw). Thus, electricity is only about 30-35% efficient. So not that different from a good diesel. Power plants also have emissions.

A story that is not often told. They always state electric mileage WITHOUT including any of these losses, which is cheating. People are uneducated (gullible) enough to believe it. I'm not sayin' electric cars do not have a future, but they aren't a cure all. A smaller car is probablly better than a bigger electric car. Inconvenient common sense?

The solution will always be living smaller. Also obvious.

 

[Buck Turgidson]

Electric power is much more efficient than petrol power ( I once heard that only 70% of diesel is converted to useful power, The remaining 30% is mostly heat, great for warming the water for a shower but a lot of it has to be dissipated)

Were does the electricity that charges your efficient car come from? What are the system losses before it gets to your battery?

 

[Metalicmike]

Yes ... and no. First, making electricity is only about 33-45% efficient (the rest is waste heat or consumed internally). Then another 5-7% is lost in transmission (voltage drop in the lines). Then there is another 8% hysteresis in charging batteries (you charge at a higher voltage than you withdraw). Thus, electricity is only about 30-35% efficient. So not that different from a good diesel. Power plants also have emissions.

A story that is not often told. They always state electric mileage WITHOUT including any of these losses, which is cheating. People are uneducated (gullible) enough to believe it. I'm not sayin' electric cars do not have a future, but they aren't a cure all. A smaller car is probablly better than a bigger electric car. Inconvenient common sense?

The solution will always be living smaller. Also obvious.

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This is based on heating water to drive turbines. Then take Green energy, some experts down play the benefits pointing out the energy used to produce these technologies. Strange that they never mention the energy required to build and maintain powerplants on top of the energy used to collect and deliver the fuel.

 

[Buck Turgidson]

This is based on heating water to drive turbines. Then take Green energy, some experts down play the benefits pointing out the energy used to produce these technologies. Strange that they never mention the energy required to build and maintain powerplants on top of the energy used to collect and deliver the fuel.

Keep your old car if you want to be environmentally conscious. Regardless of type of propulsion you will never be green if you change car every 3 years.

 

[Gurrig]

But what about the watches?

 

[thinwater]

But what about the watches?

We settled that (). We don't need no stinkin' watches.

 

[Gustywinds]

I have a Rolex Submariner (the cheapish steel one) which I was given as a service award but I can count the number of times I’ve worn it, on my fingers.
I wear an Apple Watch at home ( series 3 stainless steel) but have hardly put it on while I’ve been on the boat. As noted in another post, I’m debating either a new Apple Watch or a Garmin as a birthday present and one of the things in favour of the Apple is the ‘Find My’ which allows you to find it from your phone and this will work in water down to about 6 metres. Whether I'm capable of diving to 6m holding my breath is another matter altogether…

 

[William_H]

For me watch wearing is limited to yacht racing. ie timing start. Any other time mobile phone is fine. So cheapest watch is best due to Davy Jones' hunger for watches. I always wear a fabric cover over the watch and strap with just a hole for the face. It seems to save watch from getting caught on things.
Yacht racing I hear people sneer. I have just completed 40 seasons at East Fremantle Yacht Club sailing around the buoys. That equates to aprox 1000 races or 14000NM. ( same boat) So yes I like racing. (Fred Drift strikes again) ol'will

 

[doug748]

For a long time I’ve hankered after an Omega Speedmaster. Its totally irrational and I don’t earn enough to buy one but the same could be said of me and boat ownership.
Does anyone know if losing one over the side of the boat would be covered by boat insurance? Obviously that’s a question for my insurer, but I’m just wondering if others have any experience of claiming on boat insurance for something like this.
I accept this is classic mid-life crisis behaviour, but at least it’s cheaper than a Porsche. I’ve just turned fifty and it’s either an expensive watch, an expensive guitar or standing rigging, and, much as I love my boat, the latter is not likely to win this race.
My feeling is that if I buy a watch instead of rigging, and my mast falls over, at least I’ll know exactly what time it happened.

Don't buy one of those dodgy things the size of a Wagon Wheel or people will think you are a right dipstick. Or if you must, certainly don't wear it on a boat.

I like a wristwatch but use a Casio battery analogue on board tho I don't like it much.
I'm going to get a used Seiko automatic to replace it, probably about 40 quid . You could do worse even if you buy the fancy watch for day wear.
I have an expensive watch that I wear everyday, I have had it most of my life, it is small, understated and not one person in a hundred world notice it. Which is fine.

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[Jim@sea]

It will be covered on your home contents insurance.

Until you make a claim and the insurance company who you insure your house with appoints a Loss Adjuster.
I once had my boat broken into while on a swinging mooring and among the items stolen was a portable TV belonging to my brother and my fathers expensive binoculars, I checked the policy and it said that "Family" items were covered. The boat insurance refused to pay out.

They said that "Family" items meant Wife and Children, I pointed out that I was not married, They then paid out.

Loss Adjusters get 10% of what they can save an insurance company. If you have a claim get your own Loss Assessor to fight them.

 

[Refueler]

Snapdragon 23 ... alongside river bank - Farlington Fishing Club.

Forehatch was forced open .. dividing cabin door was kicked through ...
All sails (I had an extensive inventory of hank on sails) ... fishing rods / tackle boxes .... stolen.

Claim filed with Yacht Insurnace ... who agreed after lengthy discussions to Yacht Items and repairs ... but refused the Fishing gear.
I filed claim with House Contents who replied quicker than the Yacht Ins had !! Asked list of items and value.

Within a day - received a reply to make my way to XXXXX Camping and Fishing Shop and to have items to a total of the value stolen. No quibble, no argument ... unlike Yacht Insurance !! Guy in Shop - when I showed ID and the letter .. just pointed at shop and said - whatever you want .. we'll total it up and fine. I assembled my choice of gear .. signed the letter he had as received and walked out ..

What was an eye opener - was the House Contents coverage and how it extended outside the house. I came to conclusion that probably many people have failed to understand that and not claimed for gear lost away from the house.

 

[plumbob]

I've recently traded my ancient Audi A4 for a 5 year old Toyota Corolla hybrid. I wanted something smaller (easier to park), economical and durable. I had foresworn hybrids because I was not persuaded by the apparent economy. However several friends had got them and achieved consumption in the 70s. So I'm happy but still can't understand how they achieve it.
Incidentally they are not cheap - I could have had a Jaguar XF for the same money. (Same age and mileage)

You should have got the XF. Had mine for donkeys and a great car. 3litr diesel.