Denial of Access. My boat needs urgent attention

[dom]

Get a drone to deliver the tools to the boat and then swim ?

Bit new fangled, but great idea! Perhaps he could swim from the bridge and carry the flood up to the mooring?

The key is to avoid rowing this tricky stretch of water for it’s always too windy for that. And the land is always no admittance for various reasons:

“Secured a line, swam to bank and pulled her ashore with literally seconds to spare. Secured her best as I could (no fenders aboard no rope etc). She is now pinned by wind against the shoreline with 30cm gap between her and the bridge.​

Swam back to (my boat), gathered gear... tide now going out so XXX is now grounded ... too windy for rowing and now stuck by ebb so half hour walk around to the other side across fields, a swamp and 1/4 mile of knee deep muddy shoreline. Really.​

Mooring rode is slippery and rotten and has obviously parted in the weather last night.​

The land she is moored on is strictly no admittance for various reasons ... also very difficult to access. Aboard XXX for evening high tide and manage to release her from where she is wedged and tie her up as safe as possible... affixed a salvage note and left.”​

 

[Yellow Ballad]

It just seems odd to me the first PM was signed B but a second PM was sent with a bit more of a Moderator type extra all this from the first thread not the GDPR one. Although why I was getting a PM from a mod after asking a question to the OP when the OP could have just ignored or answered me in the thread I don't know?!

I like a wind up, and I was happy to keep quiet but I don't like people having the micky taken out of them and frankly the OP if genuine needs to get down to his boat and sort it out. If he doesn't want to row a mile he needs to find a new mooring.

 

[[70521]]

I do not fancy rowing a mile (outboard is in for a service) in the dinghy across nearly open water in winter in a forecast F4 to 5. No other transport is readily available.

Goodness, how long does a service take these days? Last time I had mine done it took an hour.

 

[Praxinoscope]

Get a drone to deliver the tools to the boat and then swim

 

[oldharry]

Troll, troll, troll.

Most of my working life I lived at least 3 hours from the boat. I had to make sure my moorings were sound and couldnt get twisted even in the most extreme conditions the Irish Sea could chuck at it. Its not difficult. Why no safety chain if you are using rope?

"..dont fancy rowing a dinghy a mile..." !!!! Good exercise!


'Nuff said.

 

[Blue Sunray]

I'm really not sure that 'Troll' is the correct term here, (s)he doesn't seem to mean any harm and has provided a fair bit of amusement. I must say though, if they are a moderator using multiple 'ordinary' accounts, (even if the story is true) that does reflect rather poorly on the forum's management.

 

[NormanS]

I also have a three hour trip to get to my mooring, The place where I park is quite a way from where I inflate and launch the dinghy. It's quite a distance from there out to the mooring. I like it.

 

[LadyInBed]

I had a text yesterday evening from an adjacent, and highly experienced, boat owner that my mooring lines have somehow twisted and are chafing, and that attention is needed sooner rather than later.

How does this 'adjacent, and highly experienced, boat owner' get to his boat?
Maybe you could use his access point.

 

[anoccasionalyachtsman]

I also have a three hour trip to get to my mooring, The place where I park is quite a way from where I inflate and launch the dinghy. It's quite a distance from there out to the mooring. I like it.

Fair enough Norman, but are you faced with 'nearly open' water when you get there? Thought not. I only have an hour and a half to drive to where I'd launch mine, but into nearly open water? No way.

 

[lw395]

Taking the OP at face value, it's a shame this has evolved the way it has.
I expect there is a forum member who'd help the OP get to his boat and check it, but since we don't know where it is, then we can't help.
Personally, I've been on both sides of boat owners helping each other when things get awkward.
But it does help if you're in a club.

I have left my boats in the water over several winters, but I wouldn't do it without a proper means to check the mooring every few weeks and between gales. The tradition of hauling out and laying up in Autumn is not for nothing. Having a boat on a mooring over winter is a serious commitment.

I think in general, those of us who have nice cheap moorings and save huge sums compared to marina fees need to accept that there are costs. Like owning a spare outboard perhaps? Better tenders needed. Backup plans. Also working together and keeping the 'favour bank' in credit doesn't hurt in the long run.

 

[lw395]

It just seems odd to me the first PM was signed B but a second PM was sent with a bit more of a Moderator type extra all this from the first thread not the GDPR one. Although why I was getting a PM from a mod after asking a question to the OP when the OP could have just ignored or answered me in the thread I don't know?!

I like a wind up, and I was happy to keep quiet but I don't like people having the micky taken out of them and frankly the OP if genuine needs to get down to his boat and sort it out. If he doesn't want to row a mile he needs to find a new mooring.

I assume a moderator has contacted the OP and then contacted some of the people the OP has had PMs with?
No reason to assume any misdeeds by the mods, other than a lack of clarity?

 

[NormanS]

Fair enough Norman, but are you faced with 'nearly open' water when you get there? Thought not. I only have an hour and a half to drive to where I'd launch mine, but into nearly open water? No way.

Well, it's in a sealoch, so no, not wide open water, but in some wind strength and directions it can be challenging.

 

[JumbleDuck]

Agree, rowing a mile in open water is a bad idea.

I used to row a mile from Silver's yard to a borrowed mooring off Clynder. Never did me any harm. And I once rowed an 11 foot dinghy 7 miles to see a girl. She fell in boarding, which rather put paid to things. On the way back I sailed 7 miles, but the wind died when I was about to tack and I had to row another 7 miles home. Kids today, eh?

 

[dom]

I used to row a mile from Silver's yard to a borrowed mooring off Clynder. Never did me any harm. And I once rowed an 11 foot dinghy 7 miles to see a girl. She fell in boarding, which rather put paid to things. On the way back I sailed 7 miles, but the wind died when I was about to tack and I had to row another 7 miles home. Kids today, eh?

Apols, I was being silly. As a kid we used to row old clinker boats out of Bullock Harbour just south of Dun Laoghaire down to Dalkey Island and the Muglins rock. Great fishing back then. Sometimes we continued on to Killiney beach, then row back with tide. All in 3-5 miles or so. Can’t say I’d have let my kids do that at that age. A day under oars in a boat that rows reasonably well is however such a different and wonderful experience - everyone should give it a go!

 

[Quandary]

This situation reminds me of a thran housing developer client of mine. On a site visit, I had suggested that two houses backing on to each other would lack garden privacy so he had got his brickies to build a 2m. breeze block separating wall. One of the new residents was moving in and boned him almost immediately because he had not got round to rendering it, she was quite irate and wanted it done that day. He walked down to the compound, jumped in a JCB drove up the site and flattened the wall as she was walking back to her house. Her face was a picture, they got the regulation post and wire fence.

 

[Binnacle]

The question of shared access is not relevant as some owners have private access to their mooring and some come across the water and some rely on the landlord's access.

This is no troll, and it is a matter of regret that some posters have taken it upon themselves to read too much into a request for help.

The matter has escalated overnight and is heading for solicitors (expensive) letters and other agency involvement. Thank you to those who offered genuine help, and to those who looked on the threads as a game, then I believe you are fortunate not have spent the last spring, summer and autumn trying to deal politely and fairly with a landowner who seems to prefer a closed door to an open one and who has shown no appetite at all for discussions leading to mutually beneficial resolution, and a disregard for the economic realities of life. That work and hassle has resulted in less than 500 miles sailing and in the unwanted and unnecessary loss of many weeks pleasure and benefit in our boats.

I shall ask for this thread to be closed.