Johnah
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We are very grateful that Trinity House is responsible for the buoys at the Deben and Ore entrances. Think the survey is being carried out today by the black rib.
Deben entrance 2024
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RivalRedwing
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I suspect it is because the Deben and Ore are both dynamic estuaries which are also potentially hazardous in adverse conditions and there is also a 'historical' precedent at play, it is probably also good from a training perspective too. Stone Point is interesting at present but it has a very competent Club keeping an eye on it, the route across the bay to Oakley Creek seems stable in a way that the Ore and Deben entrances are not.
Cantata
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Apparently it was indeed the survey being done. Plan is to do the Ore entrance tomorrow if the weather is OK.
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jezjez
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Came in to the Deben on Thursday last week. I have come in from the Orwell every spring for the last few seasons in late March or early April, this is the first time I have ever asked John White if he could show me the route in.
It was actually very simple (not least because he knew the way), and I dare say even staying with the current bouyage would have been near enough ok - but on balance it was probably worth being shown the route this time. Essentially, we followed the bouyage until a bit before the second red and made for the last green ‘early.’
We had 1.2 under our 1.5 keel at the lowest point 2 hours before HW on a 4M tide, it’s been worse for depth before now.
It was actually very simple (not least because he knew the way), and I dare say even staying with the current bouyage would have been near enough ok - but on balance it was probably worth being shown the route this time. Essentially, we followed the bouyage until a bit before the second red and made for the last green ‘early.’
We had 1.2 under our 1.5 keel at the lowest point 2 hours before HW on a 4M tide, it’s been worse for depth before now.
Johnny WAFI
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Hello, I have just spoken to John Barber and I am a little concerned. Have any of you been past the bar this year ? If so what is your draught and how did it go? My interpretation of John's advice is (going out) to head for the green Deben buoy, ignore Knoll spit red and head for the correct side of red West Knoll leaving it 10m to starboard.
MikeBz
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See the post immediately before yours.
PeterR
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Latest news from East Coast Pilot
DEBEN and ORE ENTRANCES (Updated 25th April 2024)
We do not yet have 2024 survey data for the Ore entrance, and buoyage there is still absent.
Imrays have received the new survey data for the Deben entrance from Trinity House, and we should have the new 'official' chartlet online within a week or so. In the meantime, two of the Deben entrance buoys will be moved to their new positions in the next few days.
The new positions will be as follows -
Mid Knolls - move to 51deg 58'.645N 001deg 23'.780E
West Knolls - move to 51deg 58'.790N 001deg 23'.690E
You are still strongly advised to consult the HM (details in ECP) before attempting entry or exit.
DEBEN and ORE ENTRANCES (Updated 25th April 2024)
We do not yet have 2024 survey data for the Ore entrance, and buoyage there is still absent.
Imrays have received the new survey data for the Deben entrance from Trinity House, and we should have the new 'official' chartlet online within a week or so. In the meantime, two of the Deben entrance buoys will be moved to their new positions in the next few days.
The new positions will be as follows -
Mid Knolls - move to 51deg 58'.645N 001deg 23'.780E
West Knolls - move to 51deg 58'.790N 001deg 23'.690E
You are still strongly advised to consult the HM (details in ECP) before attempting entry or exit.
Johnah
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John White the Harbour Master confirmed today that the Deben entrance buoys were moved to their 2024 positions on Friday 26th April.
I will get some photos when I can, but a decent spring low tide is a week away.
John
I will get some photos when I can, but a decent spring low tide is a week away.
John
hurley
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captain.morgan
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Thanks Johnah.
Johnah
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Some photos of the Deben entrance today 30th April with the buoys in their 2024 positions at LW neaps 1.0m above CD. I will repeat next week when the water is lower.
The bottom two photos show the Port Knoll Spit and the Port West Knoll buoys in line, and the Starboard Deben and the Port West Knoll Buoys in line, to indicate where the middle knoll protrudes.
John
The bottom two photos show the Port Knoll Spit and the Port West Knoll buoys in line, and the Starboard Deben and the Port West Knoll Buoys in line, to indicate where the middle knoll protrudes.
John
snowbird30ds
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Thanks as always John.
Major_Clanger
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That's really helpful, thanks John. I'm at the Ferry now and leaving 0400 tomorrow so perfect timing.
John 32i
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The workboat repositioned the buoys at high tide this morning, at least three yachts made a sharp exit straight away!
I Wright
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Hard to tell as I am only looking on the NCI webcam but it looks like they might have moved/repositioned the Deben buoy and Relocate the knoll spit buoy
I Wright
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Hard to tell as I am only looking on the NCI webcam but it looks like they might have moved/repositioned the Deben buoy and Relocate the knoll spit buoy
I Wright
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Johnah
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Yes, I was having a first sail over the bar this morning and the Deben plus the Knoll Spit buoy were being re-positioned.
John White says they are much better now and in the positions they asked for.
I will get some aerial photos later.
John
John White says they are much better now and in the positions they asked for.
I will get some aerial photos later.
John
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Johnah
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Here is the new buoyage out of and into the Deben as of today 4th May 2024.
It's neaps so there is still a lot more to see, but the new channel is so much better.
The long curved spit near the outer Middle Knoll buoy isn't showing, but maybe next week it will appear.
John White says these Deben and Knoll Spit buoy positions are what they have been asking for.
John
It's neaps so there is still a lot more to see, but the new channel is so much better.
The long curved spit near the outer Middle Knoll buoy isn't showing, but maybe next week it will appear.
John White says these Deben and Knoll Spit buoy positions are what they have been asking for.
John
tillergirl
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looks like a nice straightish but narrow channel.
