bedouin
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Presumable s75 6 (b) would apply - if you declare it to be unroadworthy and reasonable assume the buyer will fix it before using it.
Bought a New to me Boat and the Wheel Fell Off
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Bigplumbs
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Given that the seller had no idea of the issue claiming all that from him would in my view be dishonourable. In my world Honour is far more important that money
Bigplumbs
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So you dont know then.......... as you have used Presumably, reasonable and assume........ It is better to look into the real world than to gaze into the world of the Theory mongers......... Copy and pasted sections from the internet seldom impresses I think..... So my post no 40 was correct all along
bedouin
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He would struggle to claim the he thought you would fix it before use if he saw you hitch it the back of your car and drive away..
Bigplumbs
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Boats and boat trailers dont need an MOT so I am a little confused. When I drove off neither of us had any knowledge that the trailer was in any way defective In fact we both thought after reasonable inspection that it was fine. When you take out you trailer do you carry out any sort of inspection each time and if you did do you think you would have spotted corrosion from the inside of the suspension arm.
And in point of fact I think it was road worthy. Just because something fails on a vehicle is not evidence that it was not road worthy. You need to do a proper investigation after the event to know that and that was certainly not done.
As I said to me honour is far more important than money which after all is the root of all evil
Bigplumbs
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Was it road worthy before the wheel fell of............ cos it was going along quite nicely and all was joyful. So was it road worthy before I hit the thing in the road............ Would a road worthy brand new trailer break if it hit the thing....... what was the thing, how big was it, was it a thing, was it a hole, was it in the Upside down with flotsum floating about........... These are perhaps the sorts of things that should be investigated before people jump to the conclusion that it was not road worthy....... The AA took two photos and decided in 2 mins........ Are they perhaps 11 or Yoda.......... Or do they just decide that unilaterally cos they can then charge you £954
salad
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This is extremely unfortunate. Have you told the seller what happened? If he's a reasonable bloke like you, he might be willing to help out, go 50/50 on recovery or something. I know I would had I sold something defective like this without knowing.
Please don't let it take the edge off new boat ownership for you, it'll come good in the end.
Please don't let it take the edge off new boat ownership for you, it'll come good in the end.
billskip
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I drove from east Devon to Littlehampton to look at a Pilot 595 many yrs ago, being used to boat trailers I took with me a spare set of bearings incase I bought it.
Well the deal was done trailer in good nik, jacked up and listened to wheel bearings all good, I'm driving back and bang, nearside wheel bearing collapsed, no problem till I took it off and found the stub was a larger diameter. Fortunately i found a place and bought new bearings, I was lucky.
These things happen, fortunately no other damage.
Nice looking boat.
Well the deal was done trailer in good nik, jacked up and listened to wheel bearings all good, I'm driving back and bang, nearside wheel bearing collapsed, no problem till I took it off and found the stub was a larger diameter. Fortunately i found a place and bought new bearings, I was lucky.
These things happen, fortunately no other damage.
Nice looking boat.
Martxer
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Both buyer and seller inspect trailer and deem in good condition, buyer driving home hits something in road with trailer and breaks it.
why would seller stump up anything having been told the full facts?
seems unfortunate but sh#t happens,
Bigplumbs
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I did indeed let the seller know in a very friendly way. I told him that I was in for about £1,500 total cost and asked him if he would refund me £250 as a gesture of good will. This was the final amount we were haggling over in the purchase. He was very apologetic and Sent me the money last night.
The main point if this thread was not about the money it was to alert people for the following reasons
1) Even if you do the best checks you can boat trailers will and do do this
2) you cannot see or test for this sort of thing
3) The AA seems to have changed their policy and are not that good any more
4) Some People are very reasonable sellers with integrity and honesty
5) Real life seldom mirrors theory
6) honour is far more important than money
7) Some things people post on here are ludicrous
8) to show people my new to me boat
9) To Have a bit of fun
The main point if this thread was not about the money it was to alert people for the following reasons
1) Even if you do the best checks you can boat trailers will and do do this
2) you cannot see or test for this sort of thing
3) The AA seems to have changed their policy and are not that good any more
4) Some People are very reasonable sellers with integrity and honesty
5) Real life seldom mirrors theory
6) honour is far more important than money
7) Some things people post on here are ludicrous
8) to show people my new to me boat
9) To Have a bit of fun
Bigplumbs
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Oh and point no 10) To demonstrate that I think smaller used boat Prices are now returning to a more normal level. I think before the Pandemic a boat like this would have been about £7,500 probably. I paid £8,250 now
Bouba
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Could it be seasonal? It’s now the peak of summer and most people have made their getaway plans, including boat purchases. All that are left in the market are impulse buyers and all season boaters like you...we don’t know if the madness won’t continue in the build up to next summer
Bigplumbs
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This boat had been on face book MP for 10 weeks however initially at £9,750 and then at £9,000. So not sure as 10 weeks would have taken you to Middle of May
limecc
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Bella fetched £8400 at auction on 31.10.21 and I paid £8500 for mine in 2019, I did well to get it for that. In fact I beat him down saying that it needed new suspension ? ?
Blueboatman
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Golly
When I wanted a trailer ( once) I looked for a 4 wheel one to rebuild .
The extra bits weren’t that much more to rebearing and retyre, in the grand scheme of things..
Knowing nothing about lugging my precious sailing boat about i reasoned that
“4 wheels better than 2” ??
Although an uncruised standard boat could legally be towed with 2 wheels , just about…
And so it proved .
Much easier to manoevre on and off the jockey /tow hitch too
And less pitching
Still quite a fraught experience towing through built up areas ?
My four wheels worth, as a trailer numpty.
Glad you got her home .
Bigplumbs
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Very interesting History. So it would seem that my seller had it for a very short time. Getting her for £8,250 even with the trailer issue was a reasonable price it would seem. I do think Prices are starting to stabilise/come down
limecc
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Correct because you were near Southampton and it was listed in Bristol.
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Bigplumbs
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How do you find yours goes with the 50hp. I am concerned it might be a little under powered
limecc
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Correct. Adequate but somewhat underpowered. If the AV plate is set 40mm above keel (I see yours is two holes too low), it will do nearly 30 knots but the pickup will be slow especially on the back of a wave which is why I sold the DF50 on mine. To raise the engine I used 3mm shims to space it off the stainless strip on top of the transom.
Transom rating is 52kw (77hp) and 120kg max weight so it would go well with a nice 70 or 80 HP two stroke, only the Yam F70 four stroke comes in under that weight. It's already stern heavy, maybe less so with your Tohatsu, but then you're no lightweight. (No offense intended)
If you like the boat and decide to sell the Narwhal definitely swop the engine over. The rib won't do anything better than the Ranieri, Cath and dog will far prefer it.
billskip
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Couple of alternatives...
