Bio fuel here

Sorry if I offended you May, but I still consider anything with a big engine to be a luxury, and if we can't afford luxury's then we go without!

If the governments squeeze on fuel prices reduces the amount of Chelsea tractors that constantly do there challenging off roading all through our capitals treacherous roads and other equally dangerous terrain in suburbs all around the country I for one will be pleased for the enviromental improvements. I drive a Range Rover with good reason, I genuinely require 4 x 4 capability and can afford to run it too, if the time comes when I can't then I will have something more fitting, the same with a boat, if I fell on hard times and had to restrict the use of a motor boat to reduce fuel expenditure then I would, if it came to the position where I could not afford my luxury then it would go - simple.
 
I placed my first post recently asking for boat recommendations and many private messages to me pointed out running costs and high fuel prices rather than the information I had requested

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Thats a bit rich, captain. After all, you basically implied you had no idea what boat to buy, so you can hardly expect people to second guess your knowledge of up and coming changes to running a boat.
 
can there be a mutual consortium? So a large scale production and delivery at 2500litres per person. Non profit making?Around the Solent, could you get 50 "owners" involved for example, or do the costs suddenly make it uneconomical again?
 
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If only life was so simple, and why in the free world shouldnt peolple be able to buy and drive anything they want.

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No problem with anyone owning luxury items if they can afford to, its the ones that can't or continually whine about the cost of doing so that annoy me.

4 x 4 owners who do not have any reason for 4x4 capability and then have the stupidity to whine about fuel costs need to take a long hard look at themselves.
 
What the hell has happened here??? This is becoming a slating groud! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

4x4's are great, clapped out Mondeo's or Vectra's pollute just as mouch and I dont see the do gooders whing about them! Boats have just 'Gotten' bloody expensive to play with, so why the hell wouldnt people look towards other means of powering them??? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Seems like a bloody sensible route to take to me!

'Phil' are you sure your not related to the cooont of Montechristo??? LMBO! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
Oh good grief some of you people, if you have an expensive hobby then make sure you can afford it, if not find something else to float your boat.

Mr Argonautical, by other means of powering them, how about wind????? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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I drive a Range Rover with good reason, I genuinely require 4 x 4 capability and can afford to run it too, if the time comes when I can't then I will have something more fitting, the same with a boat, if I fell on hard times and had to restrict the use of a motor boat to reduce fuel expenditure then I would, if it came to the position where I could not afford my luxury then it would go - simple.

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I'm not offended - just fed up /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

We drive a Toyota Amazon - my husband often has to go to sites up mountain tracks or at the back of beyond plus we live in a village that , in bad weather, needs a 4 wheel drive to get out of. The car is an 03 model - when we purchased it the Government allowance of .40p per mile that the company pays us covered the costs of running it. Now it goes no where near. We do not intend to change it, as all being well, it should go on forever.

Even if we did want to change it, the hysteria surrounding 4 x 4 vehicles has ensured that the price has dropped like a stone since we purchased it.

The same is true of the boat. When purchased 8 years ago, filling it up was affordable - she takes 2,500 litres. Now, I dread to think what it will cost - I have not been near a fuel pump since last August - you say if you could not afford your luxury then it would go - well again, what was an asset eighteen months ago is now, I imagine, currently vitrually unsellable

We feel trapped between a rock and a hard place.

We have run our company for the last 20 years dilligently paying all taxes due - not small enough to slip under the net but not big enough to employ smart accountants versed in the art of tax avoidance. The Government bites us in every way it can and we pay up without a fight.

Well the worm is turning and 2,500 litres of bio fuel will be processed by us as soon as we can set up. Whilst processsing it I shall be sticking two fingers up to Mr Darling, Mr Brown et al

Rant over, I am going for a lie down

May
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Crude $109.91 barrel and rising.

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The price of crude is now well over the the price of producing it from oil shale (approx$80-90 but should fall over time)

Its worth noting that the reserves of oil shale are enormous, 400 years supply in the US for example.

Perhaps the good times will return.....

Geoff
 
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Sandbanks, hows your 4 year old Range Rover???/ LMBO!!

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Its my third vehicle thanks, I also have something economical and something 'nice' for special occassions, and I can afford to put proper fuel in all of them, not chip fat.

LMBO?, not sure what that means, do I need to become accepted here to discover the meaning of your nautical slang?
 
I totally agree with Greg. If you can't afford it then don't run it. Simple. Don't come on here whingeing about the price of Diesel when you're probably spending the national debt in posh restaurants every week. Live within your means or STFU.
 
So if Mr Darling had announced a 400% increase of fuel tax for all non-commercial 4x4s yesterday you'd be quite happy to pay up or sell your RR without any protest?

400% is not an exaggeration, it is the increase in duty we are faced with on 1/11/08 for non-commercial red.
 
Wasnt this exactly one of the points for keeping derogation on red?
Now we'll have half the motorboaters running around on fuel that may actually be legal but IMO will cause extra breakdowns at sea.
The whole point was safety - now look what they've done.
 
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400% is not an exaggeration, it is the increase in duty we are faced with on 1/11/08 for non-commercial red.

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I would pay it, because I can /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Off to Londinium now for a meeting, lets hope I don't get run down, as the office is near a school and swamped by Porche Cayene's after 4pm /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
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I totally agree with Greg. If you can't afford it then don't run it. Simple. Don't come on here whingeing about the price of Diesel when you're probably spending the national debt in posh restaurants every week. Live within your means or STFU.

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Well I'm with May on this one.

I guess I'd have to say I am rich by the standards of people who don't post on here but nobody gets rich by wasting money. If prices go up everyone, rich or poor, is entitled to have whinge about it.

I can afford the new diesel prices and it will not affect my boating really but if there was a simple way to "cook" up cheaper diesel then I would do it and save my self a few quid. Just because I can still afford something does mean I can't complain when the price rises and seek out a cheaper alternative.
 
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I totally agree with Greg. If you can't afford it then don't run it. Simple. Don't come on here whingeing about the price of Diesel when you're probably spending the national debt in posh restaurants every week. Live within your means or STFU.

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Well I'm with May on this one.

I guess I'd have to say I am rich by the standards of people who don't post on here but nobody gets rich by wasting money. If prices go up everyone, rich or poor, is entitled to have whinge about it.

I can afford the new diesel prices and it will not affect my boating really but if there was a simple way to "cook" up cheaper diesel then I would do it and save my self a few quid. Just because I can still afford something does mean I can't complain when the price rises and seek out a cheaper alternative.

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Exactly!!

May
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