Bad seamanship caught on film ?

I may be wrong but aren't both skippers responsible for avoiding a collision.

Perhaps Dylan could move over a bit, but equally, using the argument that Dylan should move over because he might meet a gravel barge, or a 25Knot Daka, shouldn't the 25Knot Daka slow down because he might meet a Dylan?

It sounds like the real jist of this is "I like coming through here at 25Knots and I'd rather you didn't get in my way" :D
 
just a bit of fun

Cloona said:
i thought that bloke was just trying to make friends .....
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Daka is just having a bit of a laugh at my expense

I do much worse than just motoring up the middle of a river occasionally

he should dig deeper in the archives

he needs to be careful about spending too much time watching KTL films though. He might even decide that sailing is more fun, more peaceful, cheaper, environmentally slightly better and more zen than whizzing around behind a set of gas guzzling patio doors



Dylan
 
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NealB said:
To avoid collision, you would be better to throttle right back, and/ or change course.
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on a straight bit of river yes.

But you wouldnt try to go backwards round a bend, the boat in the flood has to keep power on or he will go broadside on.

Dylan was on the ouse (he says only 4 knots of flood on the day) , on a straight bit and wasnt in too much danger.

It is a bad habit to be in though, he has mentioned exploring the Trent which is narrower , more bends and a lot ,lot faster on a spring flood.

If he carries on navigating in the middle sooner or later he will find himself in an awkward situation.

I used to have a 30 knot boat and able to get out of trouble but I wouldnt ever go round a bend on the wrong side .

this isnt even a raggies / stinker argument (this is about one power boat with out a sail (mast not stepped ! ) unyet scuttlebutts seems unable to take on board a simple safety navigational tip (scuttlebutts, " Im a raagie everything has to give way to me" is unbelievable ).

My boat is 360nm away, dylan isnt going to meet me coming round a bend but there are other mobos, barges, and coasters.


think about it and admit Ive made a valid observation , Dylan you set yourself up on a pedestal making films of bad seamanship indeed , there is no shame in it as you were in an area you are unfamiliar with, but you are unwittingly a star of your own show ;)
 
What annoys me most about the Dakas of this world is not so much their speed (speed is in my opinion the most stupid thing in the world... see Mr Einstein theory... or ask my partner...), it's not the noise they make (if they do not appreciate the hissing of the water on their bows or the birds singing...), their banks destructive wash or dancing about that their wake is causing (that can be fun but may be not when enjoying a glass of Claret in the cockpit), not the smell of their exhausts (masking the iodine salted air) in my nostrils for ages after they have come near you but the idea of them filling my lungs with the very pollution I have been avoiding (at great price) by living in the country side, by cycling everywhere rather than using my car or van, all this which I could (reluctlantly but what other choice do we have?) conceive in the case of transporting goods or commuting but in the case of PLEASURE CRAFTS?????????? I fail to see the point. But I am an old grumpy bear... Safe sailing all. Al. Rant over
 
DAKA said:
ALL speeds could be exaggerated, but please adjust as you see fit.
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Speed limits on the Great Ouse vary between 4 mph (6.4 kmph) to 7 mph (11.2 kmph). On the tidal section of the river the speed limit is 15mph (24.1 kmph).

There is a speed indication system on the Ely Ouse to make the river safer. Two transit posts have been installed on the riverbank and serve as speed markers. When travelling between the two posts it should take at least 30 seconds or longer. If it takes less than this then you are speeding, so please reduce your travelling speed.
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Good troll, but probably not a contender for the Christmas prize

- W
 
Sgeir said:
As ever, Peter....

:):):)

Brilliant troll.
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I'm still not entirely sure what a 'Troll post' is but my post was intended after viewing and enjoying Dylans video and spotting a potential danger.....

1) serious helpful note to Dylan- While navigating fast flowing bendy rivers , stay over to your side and be ready for oncoming traffic.

but seeing as that makes for a dull post I decided to colour round the edges in order to

2) add humour

3) exaggerate purely as it made the principle easier to understand and hopefully encourage 'thinking outside the box'.

4) turned the table on Dylan as he was clearly navigating in a careless manor (but I didnt want to embarrass him in a nasty way , hence the attempt to add humour to play it down)

So which bit is the troll bit
1)
2)
3)
or
4)

Because to be honest all I see on scuttlebutts when I post a valid point for discussion is
"hear no evil, speak no evil and shout troll if we start to loose the argument ;)
 
webcraft said:
Good troll, but probably not a contender for the Christmas prize

- W
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See above Webby regarding Troll posts , but in regard to speed limits , the ones you quote do not apply around trent falls, I think they start at the railway bridge on the ouse and Gainsborough on teh trent.

EA do not control the river there, it is under the jurisdiction of ABP.

There are two River Ouse

Dylan was no where near Ely, thats the wrong river.
 
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Hi Daka.

You've twice given strong hints in this thread that there are problems of getting 'broadside' on to a current.

I realise that, in such conditions, you have to be very aware of anything that is attached to the land (including, of course, other bits of land), but I have never experienced any problems merely as a result of crossing a fast moving current or tidal stream.

Could you, please, give me the benefit of your "huge experience", and explain the dangers?

Many thanks!
 
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DAKA said:
I'm still not entirely sure what a 'Troll post' is but my post was intended after viewing and enjoying Dylans video and spotting a potential danger.....

1) serious helpful note to Dylan- While navigating fast flowing bendy rivers , stay over to your side and be ready for oncoming traffic.

but seeing as that makes for a dull post I decided to colour round the edges in order to

2) add humour

3) exaggerate purely as it made the principle easier to understand and hopefully encourage 'thinking outside the box'.

4) turned the table on Dylan as he was clearly navigating in a careless manor (but I didnt want to embarrass him in a nasty way , hence the attempt to add humour to play it down)

So which bit is the troll bit
1)
2)
3)
or
4)

Because to be honest all I see on scuttlebutts when I post a valid point for discussion is
"hear no evil, speak no evil and shout troll if we start to loose the argument ;)
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:p You are a troll. Get over it :eek:
 
NealB said:
Hi Daka.

You've twice given strong hints in this thread that there are problems of getting 'broadside' on to a current.
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Nothing at all if you are happy with it and miss the river banks as you have already pointed out.
Might look a bit odd during the day going down the river sideways on and nav lights might cause a little confusion after dark but what the heck, whats it got to do with a troll how you handle your boat , go for it :)
 
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