AWB with separate shower

[kingfisher]

We're planning on "upgrading" this winter. Out goes the '73 vintage half tonner, which is too small, too wet and too expensive in maintenance ( and which I had before I had SWMBO, but this is apparently not a valid argument).

Since we now have have a kid (well, SWMBO came with that package, not optional), we are going for a floating caravan. This has been decided in full agreement of all parties, I am told.

If I am going for the floating caravan version, I want the full option, so I will take the deminished sailing capacity, if I can have some opulence. And as far as I am concerned, there is nothing more luxurious than a hot shower. But who the hell wants to take a shower in the same spot as where he just took a dump? Hello yacht designers? Do you have a fettish for wet toilet paper?

Do AWB sailors have chronic diarhea (sp?) that a 36ft must have two toilets?

So: I am looking for a 34 to 36-footer, post 1985, that has a separate shower stall. It can be in the same bathroom, as long as it is a separate compartement.

Don't care about the rest, since all AWBs look alike anyway. How do you actually find your boat in the marina after the pub? Is like a luggage thing, where you mark your bow with a little blue ribbon? ;-)

 

[fireball]

Our BAV 37 (2000) just has a larger heads, the shower is pull out of the sink.

However, the toilet paper is in the cupboard under the sink - so doesn't get wet when you have a shower.
It's not perfect though it is better than the last boat in that we've got more room to move around and stand upright!!

 

[FullCircle]

Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 36i, single aft cabin version.
A huge waste of space IMHO.
But hey!, what do I know?

 

[andymcp]

Most AWBs have a transom shower, a few of them with hot water too. Very few sailors keep toilet paper near the transom, so should solve all your problems. Remarkably roomy too.

I'll get me coat......

 

[fireball]

Damm - completely forgot about that one - despite having used it this summer - with the hot water too .... very nice!! Even had the "shower dolly" to pass the soap!

 

[Deleted member 36384]

Its All Flannel

The damp flannel option does the same without getting the loo role wet, its portable, can be used anywhere on the boat, very easy to clean, consumes small amounts of water, will not soak the heads and is maintenance free.

 

[FullCircle]

The damp flannel option does the same without getting the loo role wet, its portable, can be used anywhere on the boat, very easy to clean, consumes small amounts of water, will not soak the heads and is maintenance free.

And suggestion of that method to SWMBO would have an immediate and deleterious effect on the 2010 Yacht Budget. Madame is most recently delighted with my shower strainer and non slip flooring improvements in the shower. A most prized feature of our fine craft.

 

[jonjo]

Do AWB sailors have chronic diarhea (sp?) that a 36ft must have two toilets?

Two heads on 36 footer? Not a common config below 40'.

Anyhow do you really expect much advice having just aimed multiple insults at the yachts owned by the people who can offer help?

 

[michael_w]

What's wrong with a curtain to cover the lockers, bog paper etc? Saw one of those separate stall things at the boatshow. Like trying to take a shower in a vertical coffin. You'll need to be very thin and SWMBO have none of the normal protuberances.

More important is a proper thermostatic mixer valve and a trigger on the shower rose. We used to waste gallons of water getting the temperature right. Mira make the smallest I've seen.

 

[Cruiser2B]

Well, if you find one with two heads - then convert one to a shower-only.

 

[nimbusgb]

My Oceanis 390 has 3 double cabins and 2 heads!

Forward for showering, aft for the other business!

 

[kingfisher]

Two heads on 36 footer? Not a common config below 40'.

Anyhow do you really expect much advice having just aimed multiple insults at the yachts owned by the people who can offer help?

Well first of all, it was meant in jest (some people have long toes, though) and second of all, I am mainly berating the yacht designers, not the owners.

And I do realise that in a sub-36 footer compromises have to be made but:
1) Why do those yachts have a nav table with a chair? I can do most navigation standing, and if I need to sit down, I have a large dining table. So that is already 1sq m gained.
2) I do realise that most yachts are sold on the charter market , so a 36 footer should sleep 6 or more. But some of us want a 2 cabin-boat. In most cases, this is simply a 3-cabin boat, where the second cabin has been turned into a giant locker.
I may not agree with Island Packet designers all the time, but at least they try something different. Most boats interiors are as imaginative as hilton hotel rooms: you enter, bathroom door to your left, dressing right. Next to dressing is the stool for the luggage then the TV/desk, opposite is the bed with two bed stands. Maybe they have a standardised inetrior to help you get out of the room in case of fire?

 

[Refueler]

What annoys me with most boats old and new - is as you say the idea to cram in as many bunks as possible.

When you think you could take a pocket sized boat ... remove most of the bits, redesign to be good for 2 and have room for the bits that make life better. Take a mid 30'sft'r and you can really have a fab interior / living space for 3 if set up well by ripping out and sorting it for real number of people.

 

[michael_w]

Sounds like a home built Vertue I've been onboard.

Standing headroom, double berth, fridge, pressurised hot water inc shower, Stove with an oven and ocean capable to boot.

 

[Tranona]

A two cabin boat like fireballs has a good sized heads with much more showering space than my 3 cabin version. Problem with having the compartment at the aft end is that you run out of headroom because of the cockpit. Some have tried to give a bigger compartment - look at an Elan 344 two cabin for example. That has a separate shower (at least partitioned off). But look at the compromise in the saloon. As the testers said - what a poor allocation of scarce space!

The best set up in my view is the Bavaria 38 Ocean which has the head and shower on one side of the centre cockpit and the galley on the other - but that is a different kind of boat and much more expensive.

Personally I don't think you can better the compromise of the Bavaria 37 2 cabin like fireballs. Not only the good heads but two armchairs in the saloon! If I could have afforded it I would have gone that route, but the lower charter income did not make it economic.

 

[sailorman]

Sounds like a home built Vertue I've been onboard.

Standing headroom, double berth, fridge, pressurised hot water inc shower, Stove with an oven and ocean capable to boot.

 

[Grumpybear]

Armchairs

With apologies to our old mate Fred drift, our 2-cabin SO36.2 has two armchairs in the saloon (and a roomy heads compartment with a shower stall with perspex door -shared with the loo, but it hasn't been a problem). Boat goes like a rocket, too.

 

[Sans Bateau]

The newer Hanse 370 has a seperate shower in the heads. A nice perspex screen to fall against when having a pee as you beat to windward.

In our (35ftr) we have a shower curtain that keeps all the dry stuff dry. I just cant see the problem in giving the bog a good rinse every day anyway.

 

[Marsupial]

SO37 single aft cabin version has what you need, if you have a problem with the showering arrangements on this then you do have a problem

 

[photodog]

SO 37 drives like a truck... but the 36.2 as previously mentioned sails pretty well... and has a almost identical arrangment...