Are we losing touch with the essence of boats ?

[halcyon]

Still lost.

and it's nasty tubs of any material that I'm not keen on, it's simply that more nasty tubs have been made since the advent of GRP, that's all.

Tried reading again, had another bear and tried again, still lost.

Brian

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[clyst]

Re: A good point - here is one answer

yep me too!! still sail in the "dark age " no plotter for me just paper charts and i'm still here to tell the tale! The number of times I'v been anchored and had someone row over to admire the boat with comments like " had one similar to that years ago went every where had wonderful times in her---- happy days" then back to his AWB bristling with "toys". Is it nostalga or envy? I dont know but I'v never had the inclination to visit an AWB to drool over his eletronics

Cheer

Terry

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[clyst]

Had ANOTHER" BEAR" ?????? You can get locked up for that !
Cheers
Terry

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[claymore]

The Old Ways

A group of Indian Braves went to the Chief one day and said "Chief - we have ipods, palms, laptops, dvd's usbs etc- but we are afraid that we are losing the old ways - our heritage - show us some of these ways"

The Chief took them out into a clearing and threw a handful of earth into the sky, then he smelt his hands - looked at the Braves and said "This will be a cold winter my braves - gather wood" and so they all went off to do so.

Returning to his Teepee, the Chief became acutely aware that his credibility was on the line and with it the future of the Indian Nation, so after a couple of days of deliberation and soul searching - he phoned the met office for a long range forecast.
The Met man said - "This will be a very cold winter"
The Chief was very relieved to hear this and said -"How do you know?"
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All the Indians are out gathering wood.


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[oldharry]

< ...plotting / marking / detailing every little bit and bob that may be seen / unseen on the way ?? ....>

As often as not when I go out for the day or overnight, the destination depends largely on what its like when I get out there. I know my local waters pretty well now, and know the courses, tidal offsets well enough to do it in my head if vis is poor.

Yes I can do the 'heavy' stuff too, and my GPS is set up with strings of waypoints 'just in case' , charts are all there and up to date, but largely unused. Anywhere between Selsey and Weymouth I will know pretty exactly where I am without having to look it up, and will know if the next navigational feature doesnt turn up when and where it should.

Sometimes I rather wish I was sailing somewhere else so I can play with all my nav toys in earnest.....





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[halcyon]

It's the key board, I type one letter, if comes up with other options, my fault for buying Dell.

Brian

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[billmacfarlane]

Re: My point exactly - well near enough !

Glad you're not wearing rosy specs. Trouble is Nigel that before electrickeries came along, the talk of the yacht club bar was probably still about gadgets - just different ones. Blokes like gadgets and like talking about them over a beer. With some people it becomes almost an obsession. My own take on it is that I have all the gizmos and use them all when needed, but regard them as very useful tools that I can call on when needed - but the bottom line is that you're still using the wind and tides as ever. The exception to the rule as far as I'm concerned is wind instruments. I never had them before my present boat, just has a Windex and a couple of tell tales tied to the shrouds. Now I use them to judge when to reef etc., whereas before I did it by feel. Reckon I should switch them off sometime and get back to using my senses.

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[Mirelle]

Funny thing, that

I've never wanted to row over to one and drool over the toys, either, but, like you, we often get people rowing over for a look, which is nice, and a good way to meet people. In Holland, we almost get a queue!



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[towzer240]

so what size/make is the ideal boat for a basic gettaway sailer.

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[Guest]

So then we lead onto ....

What do you consider the most important add-on you have on board ??

For me its the tillerpilot .... makes single-hand / novice crewing a doddle .....


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[ChrisE]

Re: So then we lead onto ....

Best add-on, my wife. She sails boat whilst I inspect the headlining from the comfort of my bunk down below.

Second best is Monitor wind vane gear.

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[RupertW]

Re: So then we lead onto ....

If roller-reefing is considered a given, then I'd agree on autohelm, although GPS comes close

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[RupertW]

We just bought and old (well, they're all old now) GK24 after looking round at all sorts of boats from 20-26 feet.
Our requirements - fun to sail, ocasional overnight accomodation and a proper sea-toilet.
It's almost funny hoisting the mainsail of the 24 footer after so long on bigger (35-45 foot) boats. You just start pulling away and a few seconds later you realise it's at the top of the mast - no winches needed except to set the tension.

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[Mirelle]

Re: So then we lead onto ....

A very ancient idea, owner made. A secondary chart table that slides out into the companion hatch for use when piloting up rivers. Unaffected by bright sunshine, but not as snazzy as a cockpit chart plotter.

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[Guest]

Re: So then we lead onto ....

my lass is good with cheese butties and cans of beer .... passing them to me that is ....


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