Arctic Blue Flame drip diesel heater

[dgadee]

Anyone installed one of these: NORSK>ARCTICBLUEFLAMME Bulkhead marine diesel heater, no soot, electrics, for boat, cabin, tiny house

I have a Sigmar 100 on one boat and was thinking - in the future - of a similar system when the other gets back home. He wouldn't tell me the price. Anyone know?

 

[DownWest]

I like the bit about 'fair pricing', but he won't tell you??

Edit, looks a bit like the Reflex?

 

[dgadee]

I said I was pre-planning and thinking about installing a heater in a boat which would be on its way back from the Med in a couple of years or so. He said, "Talk to you then."

Difference seems to be in the air inlet (two deck holes!) but my Sigmar also suggests that and also the internal burner. I have only ever properly cleaned my Sigmar once, so I think the carbon build up he describes in other heaters is probably overstated.

These drip heaters are brill, though. No power and loads of heat.

 

[BabaYaga]

Reading the instructions, what I found especially interesting is that it seems he is developing his own regulator, which is said to make the heater very tolerant to heeling/sailing to windward.
From what I have heard, the present TOBY regulator (which is also used by Refleks since a number of years) is less suited for operation under heeling, compared to the original regulator by Trailer Control, which is no longer manufactured.

 

[dgadee]

Reading the instructions, what I found especially interesting is that it seems he is developing his own regulator, which is said to make the heater very tolerant to heeling/sailing to windward.
From what I have heard, the present TOBY regulator (which is also used by Refleks since a number of years) is less suited for operation under heeling, compared to the original regulator by Trailer Control, which is no longer manufactured.

I don't know about that. Your man Skip Novak seemed to run his 24/7. Mine has no problem with the regulator - sometimes with the wind but I am halfway through installing a barometric damper.

 

[BabaYaga]

I don't know about that. Your man Skip Novak seemed to run his 24/7. Mine has no problem with the regulator - sometimes with the wind but I am halfway through installing a barometric damper.

Not familiar with the Sigmar 100 or Skip Novak, but the instructions for the heater linked in post #1 says (page 7) that with the TOBY regulator the heater should only be used in port or in flat water conditions, not under sail at steady inclination.
It also states that a new regulator, the ABF, is under development and that this should be capable of operation at at least 25 degrees of inclination.
Which I thought interesting.
My own heater is very similar to the Refleks. It has the older type of regulator (oval top). This can work well at moderate heeling, but my experience of using it under sail is limited. It is also installed with a balanced air intake/flue system.

 

[dgadee]

Didn't see that limitation. Not much good for sailing in cold climates. But perhaps it is really directed more towards liveaboards.

 

[D&J 45]

I've just installed one of the arctic blue flame stoves on my sailboat.
The limited heel angle is purely a limitation of the Toby regulator (any more then 15° heel shuts off the fuel flow).
You can use it on the go as much as any stove using a Toby regulator (especially with the single balanced chimney) but if you exceed the lean angle it'll just turn off, the maker just doesn't want to advertise what he can't realistically make true.
The regulator that he's got in development is said to be capable of 25° of heel but it's not sure yet when it'll be finished.

I've got the single balanced chimney which includes the air inlet in the outer pipe and the exhaust on the inner pipe, works like a charm and it doesn't have any caps or weird hoods where your lines can catch on to.
no diesel smell inside the boat and no soot either in the chimney or on deck.

you can ask me anything about the arctic blue flame stove you'd like, but keep in mind I'm biased since I'm really enjoying mine.

 

[dgadee]

How much?

 

[D&J 45]

If I remember correctly it was 1400 euro's for the furnace itself and 400 for the chimney.
I don't have the receipt here and it was a couple months ago so I'm not 100% sure but that's the ballpark.

 

[dgadee]

If I remember correctly it was 1400 euro's for the furnace itself and 400 for the chimney.
I don't have the receipt here and it was a couple months ago so I'm not 100% sure but that's the ballpark.

Not so much more than buying US/Canadian stoves in Europe.

 

[D&J 45]

True, I thought the price was decent.
The man selling and making the stoves is keen to help with providing info on the installation and he helped me troubleshooting during my first startup.
I'm happy with the overall experience.