Anyone know this boat.

No wonder the owner doesn’t like other people using his mooring!
Do you mean they could pick up this rarely used mooring (for one hour max) which has a marvellous view of the Seal boat, get a stop watch and time the electric bilge pump and if they were really cheeky they could come along side in a dinghy and catch the discharge in a bucket, measure it and do the maths .
 
I very much doubt whether there is still very much wrong with this Harwich Seal boat, I dare say with all this chit chat going on it will have been fixed by now. But lets do the mathematics. Lets cut the estimated figure by more than half.
Lets say only 2 litres per 10 mins, thats 12 litres per hour x 24 =288 litres per day = 63 gallons per day. A gallon of water weighs 3.78kl x 63 = 238 kls. Now this one is for all the experts, the questions is would nearly a quarter of a ton of water sloshing from one side of the boat to the other de stabilise it.
Er, no
My diesel tank is about 225land water tank a little more so that's >half a ton in particular locations ignoring the holding tanks, not evenly distributed at the bottom of the boat.

If you have had a wooden boat (I have) and seen the amount of water they can take on (I have !!!!) this is nothing and the owner is nearby and has working pumps. This is a fuss about nothing tbh and potentially injurious to his business.

When do we get the invite to inspect your boat ?
 
When ever you want. I have been out, sleeping on board for the last 10 days out of 14 and I expect to be out again just as soon as these winds ease. I personally think you are talking rubbish comparing a contained fuel tank to a quarter ton of uncontained water sloshing about in a boat. Have you ever been into walton backwaters. The trip between there and Harwich can be pretty nasty if the wind kicks up. In fact I would say in the wrong weather nay impossible. I have seen large boats turn back on leaving Walton. I have been caught out myself with a beam sea onto the land and my boat, which is a dry boat, was covered in salt crystals due to the persistent waves hitting me on the beam. I was laying over at 45 degrees the whole trip This is not a place you take a boat unless it is 100%. The weather can change in minutes if a squall or thunder cloud appears.
I suggest you Google DARLWYNE PLEASURE CRUISER. MYLOR CREEK TO FOWEY 31 Men Women and Children on board. No one survived. YES a PLEASURE CRUISER.
 
I very much doubt whether there is still very much wrong with this Harwich Seal boat, I dare say with all this chit chat going on it will have been fixed by now.
Do you seriously think the owner has rushed off out to the boat and carried out some emergency repairs because of you post on here ? That's deluded.
But lets do the mathematics. Lets cut the estimated figure by more than half.
Lets say only 2 litres per 10 mins, thats 12 litres per hour x 24 =288 litres per day = 63 gallons per day. A gallon of water weighs 3.78kl x 63 = 238 kls. Now this one is for all the experts, the questions is would nearly a quarter of a ton of water sloshing from one side of the boat to the other de stabilise it.
You said 2 or 3 litres every 5 mins, why change it now ?

288 litres of sea water weights 295.2 kilos.

My boat carries 1500 litres of fuel and 400 litres of water. That's close to 2 tons, doesn't seen to bother it.

We had a water leak once last year and 400 litres of water leaked into the very aft section of the boat, didn't notice it until we wanted to fill the kettle up.
 
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If it's the boat I think it is and it's raining, could it be rain water, it's an open boat and it doesn't have scuppers, so rainwater gets pumped out automatically.
I remember this boat from its time in Cornwall. It was a wartime MOD tender and when I looked at her to buy, she was well found and in good condition. That's if it the boat I think it is I wish I bought it.
 
Can none of you experts accept the difference between contained liquid ( ie in a tank,) and liquid which is free to slosh about, which in turn will move the centre of gravity and the centre of buoyancy about in a chaotic way. The Herald of Free Enterprise is an example of uncontained water sloshing about. I dare say it had full fuel tanks and full water tanks but the uncontained water sank it by changing its centre of gravity/buoyancy Why did I cut my estimates in half, to show that even half the amount is dodgy as an example, so lets go back to what I said in the beginning, that would allow for over half a ton of uncontained water to play havoc. Confucius says........Best put brain in gear before opening mouth.
 
Can none of you experts accept the difference between contained liquid ( ie in a tank,) and liquid which is free to slosh about, which in turn will move the centre of gravity and the centre of buoyancy about in a chaotic way. The Herald of Free Enterprise is an example of uncontained water sloshing about. I dare say it had full fuel tanks and full water tanks but the uncontained water sank it by changing its centre of gravity/buoyancy Why did I cut my estimates in half, to show that even half the amount is dodgy as an example, so lets go back to what I said in the beginning, that would allow for over half a ton of uncontained water to play havoc. Confucius says........Best put brain in gear before opening mouth.
i agree that there’s a huge difference. Free surface water in a hull is certainly very dangerous.

The question is whether the leak on the boat is dangerous. Presumably when passengers are on board it gets pumped out.
 
If it's the boat I think it is and it's raining, could it be rain water, it's an open boat and it doesn't have scuppers, so rainwater gets pumped out automatically.
I remember this boat from its time in Cornwall. It was a wartime MOD tender and when I looked at her to buy, she was well found and in good condition. That's if it the boat I think it is I wish I bought it.
I think when you said it was a MOD tender you summed it up. It was used to transport people or stores to larger ships in a harbour or anchorage. It is basically an open boat with very little freeboard at the back and could easily be swamped with a beam sea. It is perfect for calm, sunny days but I would not want to be on it if conditions were bad. I understand it only goes out in calm weather
 
I think when you said it was a MOD tender you summed it up. It was used to transport people or stores to larger ships in a harbour or anchorage. It is basically an open boat with very little freeboard at the back and could easily be swamped with a beam sea. It is perfect for calm, sunny days but I would not want to be on it if conditions were bad. I understand it only goes out in calm weather
As a commercial vessel it will have defined limits of operations.
 
I think when you said it was a MOD tender you summed it up. It was used to transport people or stores to larger ships in a harbour or anchorage. It is basically an open boat with very little freeboard at the back and could easily be swamped with a beam sea. It is perfect for calm, sunny days but I would not want to be on it if conditions were bad. I understand it only goes out in calm weather
Well she's been around for 80 years without a problem
 
Lets go back to the beginning. I tried to tip off the owner of the Seal tour boat that he had a leak. I did this with the best possible motives and intentions. In return instead of a thankyou I was told quite bluntly to stay off his unused mooring. Next time I will not bother. As I have always said and will continue saying there are two types of people, those who make your day a little better and those who make your day a little worse.
 
I'm really confused here - the floating boat has a demonstrably functional bilge pump that is keeping the floating boat afloat with no apparent bother at all - yet you insist it's some kind of death trap?

If that was the message you tried to convey to the owner, as you have here, then I'm not in the least surprised he wasn't very receptive.
 
I digress a little, I have always been surprised that a seal viewing boat operates out of Harwich when there is a very good seal viewing boat operating within the Backwaters operating out of Titchmarsh Marina - no lengthy open sea passage.

All round a much safer activity.
 
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