ashtead
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Presumably you can now visit your lover if they live on a boat for a night away?
Anger at boats anchoring overnight
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secretofaldeburgh
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“boating lives matter” and you call the protesters cretins and oxygen thieves
jon and michie
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Nope I called the the one's who are not social distancing oxygen thieves and cretins“boating lives matter” and you call the protesters cretins and oxygen thieves
jon and michie
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Read post 136.
“boating lives matter” and you call the protesters cretins and oxygen thieves
jon and michie
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And the reason I called the protestors WHO are NOT Social distancing is because if there is a another wave of the virus we're all back to square one with total lockdown.
Which doesn't help any cause never mind us boaters wanting to stay overnight.
And for some it would be game over financially or worse still you or a loved one's life - if it hasn't happened already.
THAT IS WHY I CALLED THEM OXYGEN THIEVES AND CRETINS.
Not because of what they were protesting about - everyone has a right to protest.
We do this everyday.
Which doesn't help any cause never mind us boaters wanting to stay overnight.
And for some it would be game over financially or worse still you or a loved one's life - if it hasn't happened already.
THAT IS WHY I CALLED THEM OXYGEN THIEVES AND CRETINS.
Not because of what they were protesting about - everyone has a right to protest.
We do this everyday.
jordanbasset
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Are these OXYGEN THIEVES AND CRETINS? (happened three weeks ago at Southend beach and has been repeated across the country at beaches and tourist spots)
Brooksie89
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Yes?
jon and michie
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Of course - I am fairly sure everyone on here would be absolutely p%%%ed off if we went back to full lockdown because of the lack of social distancing
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seivadnehpets
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Time moves forward, not back.
Chalk
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It is not a rule. It is guidance. Repeat: Not a rule. Equals not enforced. Let's just use common sense.
seivadnehpets
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People, generally accepted lock down rules on the understanding that the virus could be disposed of.
After the economic hit, it is now apparent that it won't go away so we need a long term solution.
The panic lock down measures we saw are not the long term solution, and I like to think that our government, and electorate will understand that.
It is not a crime to go out side in the sun shine, and we do not live in a police state.
It is very easy for a beach picture to look crowded as the picture is two dimensional. There is a lot of space on a beach, and most people don't like to be crowded.
After the economic hit, it is now apparent that it won't go away so we need a long term solution.
The panic lock down measures we saw are not the long term solution, and I like to think that our government, and electorate will understand that.
It is not a crime to go out side in the sun shine, and we do not live in a police state.
It is very easy for a beach picture to look crowded as the picture is two dimensional. There is a lot of space on a beach, and most people don't like to be crowded.
johnalison
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Panic lockdown or not, there are those who say it should have been earlier and those who say it could have been delayed or lessened, so I am suspicious of those who claim to know in retrospect what should have been done. I agree that the picture is probably misleading, unlike those we have seen of the protesters.
seivadnehpets
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I would not point the finger at anyone, in March we simply didn't know what was coming, the government emptied the hospitals expecting mass hospitalisations. Its too easy now to look back and accuse them of moving the problem into the community. We live in a democracy, the government are our elected leaders they are no cleverer than us. But I do expect them and us to learn as we go along.
jimi
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This government is a nasty, manipulative, mendacious bunch of incompetent bustards
I’m an ex-Tory btw voted for thatcher , major etc
1. The govt reduced the UK-wide coronavirus alert level on the advice of the “Joint Biosecurity Centre".
2. Matt Hancock revealed the “Joint Biosecurity Centre” doesn’t exist yet.
3. Boris Johnson said he was “very proud” of the UK’s response.
4. After previously telling us facemasks were essential, then not essential, then essential, then not essential, then essential, then not essential (6 U-turns) the govt said facemasks were, actually, essential.
5. But not until 15th June. 2 weeks more of them being not-essential.
6. And then NHS leaders revealed they hadn’t been consulted on any of this, but they all had to wear them.
7. The govt announced dentists were returning to work the following day.
8. And then dentists said they also hadn’t been consulted about this, or even warned it was happening.
9. The govt announced it was relaxing the lockdown nationally, because it said the R level (infectivity rate) had fallen as low as 0.7.
10. Within 2 days the R level had risen back above 1 in much of Northern England, but the govt has not reintroduced local lockdowns.
11. The gov justified relaxing the lockdown because we would have a “world-beating Test and Trace” in place by 1st June.
12. And then the next day, the head of the Test and Trace programme revealed it would not be operational until Sept.
13. The following day it was revealed an "urgent Test and Trace programme" was recommended by experts in February, but not acted upon until May.
14. Boris Johnson announced he is personally taking charge of the coronavirus response, a mere 138 days since the first UK case.
15. The head of Outbreak Modelling at Imperial College said he was shocked that Covid-19 was still “spilling out of hospitals and care homes”.
16. It was revealed advice was given to the govt on 24 Feb that there should be “no discharges to care or residential homes”.
17. The Italian Health Minister has reported that Boris Johnson had told him UK govt policy was Herd Immunity.
18. The govt and Boris Johnson continue to deny the policy has ever been Herd Immunity, even though Boris Johnson went on TV and advocated it.
20. The most comprehensive World Health Organisation study to date found the risk of Covid infection doubles if the 2-metre rule is reduced.
21. Then Boris Johnson went on TV to say he wants to reduce the 2-metre distancing rule as soon as possible.
22. Matt Hancock tweeted that he was proud we reached a 200,000 test capacity.
23. The next day he said he was proud of a lower 171,000 tests.
24. If you get a nasal, throat and antibody test, that counts as 3 tests, even if it’s 1 person.
25. So 171,000 tests = 57,000 people.
26. At that rate it will take 1,175 days to test the whole UK. That’s 3 years and 3 months.
27. And almost 75,000 tests had to be redone because of problems in UK labs.
28. Boris Johnson repeated he was “very proud” of the UK government's response.
29. The govt said it would not open playgrounds, because children from different families meet there.
30. The govt said it would reopen schools where - yes - where children from different families meet.
31. 44% of England’s schools did not trust the govt advice enough to re-open.
31. The govt announced people could now meet in socially distanced groups in gardens, but under no circumstances could anybody enter the houses of friends and family.
32. The govt said homeless people should “move in with friends and family”.
33. Parliament stopped digital voting, leading to a 1.3 km long queue of MPs, right down the road and into a local park, waiting 90 minutes to do one vote.
34. MP’s often vote 8 times per day. Under the new system, this means they will do nothing at all except stand in queues.
35. No provisions had been made for extra security, or to protect those vulnerable to Covid-19.
36. Within 24 hours a cabinet minister was ill and needed to be tested. He said he tested negative.
37. It was later reported around 1/3 of tests produce false-negative results.
38. Only 12% of Britons say Parliament needs to physical voting, and there have been absolutely zero instances of voting irregularities under the digital.
39. The House Of Lords continues to vote using the digital system.
40. The Minister for Mental Health objected to Pier Morgan's criticisms, and tweeted "could you please avoid wherever possible calling people 'completely mad”.
41. And then it was revealed some time earlier, she had called people on Twitter “window-lickers”.
42. A Tory MP breached guidelines by going to a barbeque during the lockdown, attended by the deputy chairman of Spectator, the Brexit Party chairman, and journalist Isabel Oakeshott.
43. All three of these defended Dominic Cummings, who is, incidentally, still not sacked.
44. The govt criticised Chinese food standards and lack of transparency, which it said first caused, and then exacerbated coronavirus.
45. And then the govt voted to lower UK food standards, and refused to publish a report on excess coronavirus deaths.
46. In Jan the Environment Secretary said “we will not be importing chlorinated chicken, we will not be importing hormone-treated beef” as part of any future trade deal.
47. The govt said it would import chlorinated chicken and hormone-treated beef as part of a US trade deal.
48. In a single day the UK had 359 Covid-19 deaths, which was 45 more than the other 27 EU countries *combined*.
49. Boris Johnson, joint-leader of the Brexit campaign, announced he would start a “charm offensive” to get EU workers to return to the UK, after earlier saying they were just taking advantage of the UK when they were here.
50. Sir Paul Nurse, former President of the Royal Society, described talking to ministers about coronavirus as “like talking to a blancmange”.
51. Boris Johnson said for a 4th time he was “very proud” of the UK govt's response.
52. Thousands are now gathering on beaches, in IKEA queues, in protests (but at least here mostly in masks), in parks, at BBQs or people just doing their own Cummings (hard to blame them now).
FulmarJeddo
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The stay at home guidance was added to the legislation as of the 1st June, so it can be enforced. See section 6. Restriction of Movement Here
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jon and michie
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Hindsight is a brilliant thing - if I put the right euro millions numbers down - Id be an international playboy ? ? ?
seivadnehpets
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With you all the way, points 1 to 52, but this is democracy, we get the government we deserve, just bad luck for anyone wiser than the "not quite majority".
But where do you go from here Jimi?
But where do you go from here Jimi?
ryanroberts
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Yeah it's a shambles, but expert opinion wasn't exactly uniform. Now we have a narrative of social distancing being necessary (rather than just say, masks in public, tracing and isolation of the infected etc) it's impossible for government and the experts that backed it to turn around and say it was misguided. Lets not even get into culture war stuff like The Lancet publishing bogus studies to own Trump.
The resulting policy in the detail looking like its been made by Paul the octopus picking balls out of a tank really doesn't help however. Marina staff not being catch a thrown line etc.
The resulting policy in the detail looking like its been made by Paul the octopus picking balls out of a tank really doesn't help however. Marina staff not being catch a thrown line etc.
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LONG_KEELER
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As mentioned, hindsight is a wonderful thing. I can't really see how anybody else could have done better.
Unfortunately, like many posts on this forum . They don't like the Tory party,
they don't like Boris, and most of all, they hate coming out of Europe.
I'm afraid I just ignore posts like this.
Capt Popeye
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Yea is that not attributed to Nelson, with his one eye, seemed to work for him, so must by now be an unwrtiten law of the Sea for Seafarers to work to ?