90 in 180 limit from 1st January.

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The reg is the one that I quoted from 2002 nº 1464 and applies to class A and B.
It can be enforced on appropriate vessels not deemed to be just passing through i.e. anyone parked in a marina and perhaps anyone wth residencia.
 

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I'll take a reservation on that link as it says requirements as per RORC ... still not satating Law / Regulations.
I agree it 'implies' that ...... I'll take it as advised based on the link I put where it says If Fitted - the actual Portuguese MAR guide I used.

That is the translation of the law as stated in the Portuguese language document available from Capitania.
 

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Please - I'm very interested to know which parts of the world require a private yacht to broadcast AIS.

As to being required in future ? I very much doubt it as even today NOWHERE in the world are you required to have a VHF radio on a private yacht !! Nowhere that I have ever heard of anyway.
Singapore, Thailand and Malaysia.
 

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Mandatory requirement for AIS in Indonesian waters - The Shipowners’ Club

SINGAPORE PORT REGULATION: AIS REQUIREMENT

It is mandatory for yachts to be equipped with Automated Identification System (AIS) prior to entry into Singapore waters. The AIS transponder must be approved for use within the port by the MPA or the Port Master. E-mail the vessel information to noa@mpa.gov.sg at least 12 hours before entering Singapore waters.

Failure to have an AIS transponder can result in a substantial fine.

  • Thailand is visited yearly by a large number of yachts and formalities are getting simpler every year. September 2011 saw the launch of online check-in for yachts in Phuket. However, as with Singapore, in 2014 the requirement to have AIS on board in Phuket was introduced. See Formalities for more information.

AIS REQUIREMENT

Effective 1 January 2016 it is now mandatory for all incoming and out-going yachts to have AIS. See the Phuketpage for more details. Failure to have an AIS transponder will result in a substantial fine.

Corruption among Thai Marine Officials does exist and can affect visiting cruising yachts.

Last updated: June 2017


Happy now?

I am not sure why I have to prove the point when you can google it yourself.
 

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There was briefly a new thread this morning regarding a press release from the CA about cruising after 31/12/20, but the thread has since disappeared (Maybe copyright related? I have a PDF copy of the thread if anyone would like it.). The press release made reference to the CA having contacted a range of organisations with similar interests, including:

180 days visa free

who are encouraging people to contact their local MP regarding the matter. They have templates, etc. if you haven't already contacted your local MP, and the campaign is just for equal rights for travel in both directions between UK and EU citizens after 31/12/20 - i.e.: 180 days visa free.
 

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There was briefly a new thread this morning regarding a press release from the CA about cruising after 31/12/20, but the thread has since disappeared (Maybe copyright related? I have a PDF copy of the thread if anyone would like it.). The press release made reference to the CA having contacted a range of organisations with similar interests, including:

180 days visa free

who are encouraging people to contact their local MP regarding the matter. They have templates, etc. if you haven't already contacted your local MP, and the campaign is just for equal rights for travel in both directions between UK and EU citizens after 31/12/20 - i.e.: 180 days visa free.
There was, sadly it was taken down before the CA could respond to my question. Please name any other nation that allows UK citizens more than 90 days entry without a visa.
 

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There was, sadly it was taken down before the CA could respond to my question. Please name any other nation that allows UK citizens more than 90 days entry without a visa.
Antigua, Armenia, Aruba, Bahamas, Barbados, Brazil, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Chile, Colombia, Domenica, Fiji, Georgia, Grenada, Hong Kong, Jamaica, Japan, Macao, Mexico, New Zealand, Panama and Peru.
 

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Antigua, Armenia, Aruba, Bahamas, Barbados, Brazil, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Chile, Colombia, Domenica, Fiji, Georgia, Grenada, Hong Kong, Jamaica, Japan, Macao, Mexico, New Zealand, Panama and Peru.
Are you sure,Just checked one of them at random, Brazil, the Brazilian Government website says a maximum of 90 days in every 180 for the UK and not only that you require a temporary visa
https://sistemas.mre.gov.br/kitweb/datafiles/CgLondres/en-us/file/20200114 QGRV.pdf
 

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The RYA cruising conference reported the EU parliament have offered longer visa free entry for tourists, if the UK reciprocate for all EU members. The UK declined, in the knowledge that this meant the standard entry clauses.

The number of days per annum are slightly better going to the EU, but EU counts it as 90 in 180 whereas UK counts it as 180 per calendar year.
 

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The number of days per annum are slightly better going to the EU, but EU counts it as 90 in 180 whereas UK counts it as 180 per calendar year.

I'm sorry, I have to disagree. For the long term traveller/holiday home owner (I'm not BTW), 180 days per calendar year isn't slightly better, it is significantly better.
 

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I'm sorry, I have to disagree. For the long term traveller/holiday home owner (I'm not BTW), 180 days per calendar year isn't slightly better, it is significantly better.
Sorry but 90/180 > 180/365

Tourist visas are not meant for long term travellers. Unfortunately the ideologues in HMG have screwed us.
 

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180 in 365 works much much better for my plans anyway. I don't want to have to check out of Las Palmas a mere 90 days after crossing Biscay.
 

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Are you sure,Just checked one of them at random, Brazil, the Brazilian Government website says a maximum of 90 days in every 180 for the UK and not only that you require a temporary visa
https://sistemas.mre.gov.br/kitweb/datafiles/CgLondres/en-us/file/20200114 QGRV.pdf
I was going by Countries UK Citizens Can Visit Visa-Free, which says "Brazil – 90 days, can be extended for another 90 days". Maybe there is some process for requesting more time while you're there.

According to your document British passport holders don't need a visa for up to 90 days as a visitor ( "No - 3" in the second column), but do need a temporary visa for other trips, which I expect include work.
 

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Mathematically it may be but in practical terms 180 in 360 gives a lot more flexibilty because of the rolling window 90 in 180

Yes, try fitting 90+90+90 into the average sailing season, particularly further north, or indeed into a retired person's winter season in the sun. It also facilitates the letting of a UK home for a full six month period too. It would be hugely beneficial to many.
 

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I was going by Countries UK Citizens Can Visit Visa-Free, which says "Brazil – 90 days, can be extended for another 90 days". Maybe there is some process for requesting more time while you're there.

According to your document British passport holders don't need a visa for up to 90 days as a visitor ( "No - 3" in the second column), but do need a temporary visa for other trips, which I expect include work.

I think you're maybe splitting hairs here. Yes, Brazil doesn't appear to be a case in point, but my link in post #132 shows that there are indeed countries that are. Anyway, I still argue that that's not the point here. The point here is just our (hopefully reciprocal) future agreement with the EU.
 
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