You big-girls-blouses don't like holes in boats...??

[tertim]

Re: You are talking.....

I find it incredible that you can endorse OPINIONATED with his ill- conconceived remarks on the Irish, when you claim to be Irish yourself !! Or maybe you just don't get it. At least Opinionated had the good grace to appologise for his remark, you on the other hand seem to revel in others making crass remarks about your culture.
tertim

 

[Opinionated]

Re: Not airtight, but watertight.

You are taking an extremist view. Of course, if the whole forepeak is half full of water, your waterline is down, but look again at your boat - I know the Twister well enough to know that your forepeak horizontal surfaces, ie locker tops, are way above the w/l. If you had a hole, of non-catastrophic proportions ( I am not talking about catastrophic damage, you buy an Etap (or Sadler?) for that) then you will find it is confined to that compartment, and if it drains to the bilge, at least it will do so slowly. The bigger hole in the outside will, once it has half-filled the locker, drain through your drainhole, and thence to the bilge. You can stuff your t-shirt into the drainhole, and you are then looking at what I am talking about !!

Then you set about jurying a repair to the hole, using your umbrella or whatever.



IMHO, of course.

 

[Guest]

Oh please

What is it with so many groups these days.

I don't give a monkeys if people refer to me as a Brit, a Limey, a whitey. a southerner etc etc - or make mildly amusing remarks that refer to my cultural stereotype.

Confidence is what it’s about. And so many seem to lack it these days. Opinionated wasn’t being rude.

Geoff

 

[jimi]

Agree completely

Well said, I'm absolutely amazed at the xenophobic and sexist comments posted on this forum, its time there was some decorum. JeremyF never fails to amaze me with his outspoken and ill considered comments ... must be something to do with him being a old fat Irishman!

 

[Forbsie]

Re: You are talking.....

I totally agree. Coming from Aberdeen, I am sick and tired of everyone, including fellow Scots, regarding us as MEAN!

I welcome everyone into my home where they will find the height of hospitality and a table full of food and drink...


...and everything is very reasonably priced.

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.seafin.co.uk>Tender to...</A>

 

[bigmart]

Re: You are talking.....

I'm not racist.

I hate everybody.

why should I make an exception for you.

Martin

 

[steve_cronin]

Aye, I guess you could use the ...holed

plastic wallet your much prized certificate came in to plug a hole for a while!

Steve Cronin

 

[dickh]

Re: You big-girls-blouses don\'t like holes in boats...??

Agree that the side bunks are also 'water tight' but only up the bunk tops and then the water would slosh into the saloon. Certainly water would be 'contained' in several under bunk/seats/lockers until the water line was lowered and water sloshed into the main compartment.
Wether this was designed with 'water containment' in mind or was just the production method of the day, I don't know; but there are bulkheads at all these points so maybe it was structural and the 'water containment' was a by product.

dickh
I'd rather be sailing... /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

 

[Opinionated]

Oh, and let\'s put paid to the myth

Let's put paid to the myth of the boat's w/l changing by a foot due to this box full of water (or boxes, I don't mind). When I fill my empty water tank with 200litres (36ft), the waterline does NOT drop by a foot, maybe a cm.



(I don't agree with YOUR opinions, but I'll defend your right to express them).

 

[davel]

The time has come...

..to put all this theory to the test I think.

Lets have Opinionated's boat up against some BenJenBav volunteered by someone (not necessarily the owner/forums/images/icons/smile.gif).

Punch holes in the side of each and see who's right!



Dave L.

 

[vyv_cox]

Re: Oh, and let\'s put paid to the myth

But on the other hand, when I remove the chain from my bow locker, maybe 100kg, the waterline changes by almost 7.5 cm (3 inches).

 

[Aja]

Re: Not airtight, but watertight.

Now that you have expanded and clarified your original thought, I can confirm that Ron Holland has very thoughtfully provided my Jeanneau Rush with six bins with plywood covers up forward. All the lips of the bins are above the water line and all are independent of each other.

Donald

 

[vyv_cox]

Re: Unsinkable Sadlers.

James,

Do you have some experience of this? I have seen it in print several times that Sadler 34 decks have problems but the class association does not seem to report it and I have never met any owners who had experienced it. My own decks "creaked" in one place, something that I put down to the foam, but it has now ceased to make any noise.

Vyv

 

[jimmie]

Its not that strong ...

STEVEN, THAT CERTAINLY IS AN IDEA. HOWEVER THE KNOWLEDGE GAINED ON THE COURSE HAS ENABLED ME TO AVOID LARGE STICKY UP BITS OF THE SEA BED. PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN CURE ... TAKE AIDS FOR EXAMPLE ...

ARE YOU STILL MARRIED?

 

[Twister_Ken]

Dave Allen tells the best Irish jokes

and the best catholic ones too.

 

[Twister_Ken]

Re: Oh, and let\'s put paid to the myth

200 litres is 1/5 of a cubic metre. My guess is that a standard 'under berths' locker in the forepeak is more like 1.5 cubic metres. That's 1.5 tonnes of fresh water or slightly more of salt water. And it's all up at the pointy end, which had less buoyancy even before you knocked a hole in it.

 

[PeteMcK]

Naaah!

A foot down and back at the WL, I ain't got any hull to hole!

 

[jimi]

Back off boy!

Ken, on a serious note I suppose you've got an even worse problem than us tupperware merchants, if the worst comes to the worst, and Peppermint holes us at the front again then us Tups can always go full speed astern whilst maintaining a reasonable degree of control and head for port. You could end up anywhere!

 

[Twister_Ken]

I also wouln\'t be too sanguine

about a free water area the size of an underbunk locker not having the power to punch out a plywood locker front. After all, full height steel bulkheads get punched out of proper ships when they begin to flood.

 

[steve_cronin]

So if I take a course on AIDS prevention....

But WAIT a minute!

I KNOW what causes AIDS, don't need a course to tell me. It's caused by big rampant buggers in Africa putting it around too much.

Were you at the wedding? If so that candlestick we can't get candles for must have been your present!

Stephen Cronin

If you didn't know what the "sticky up bits" were then perhaps you shouldn't have been in any boat in the first place. Fortunately that introductory level of knowledge is very rare.