Which bilge keelers sail well

[Cantata]

Sadler 29, Moody S31, both in my experience.

 

[Searush]

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Westerly Pentland's. do <40 degree apparent if you are really 'in the groove'.

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I've never had mine that close to the wind unless the wind is a steady F3 & the sea is flat calm! But then I have the Ketch & the sails are registered antiques, so there you go.

But the Pentland is a heavy boat & not designed to slice to windward, but I don't need to worry about getting embayed!
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[misterg]

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If you would like an older boat that sails better than a Hunter, get a Sadler of equivalent size! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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PY number from Byron Software :

Sadler 32 B/Keel: 1096
Hunter Channel 323 B/Keel: 1062

I rest my case, m'lud /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Andy

 

[VicS]

Would not like to claim that it would do much better than 45° but no complaints really about the Berwick/Pentland sloop. Bear away a bit to keep the speed up and it makes surprisingly little leeway.

 

[whipper_snapper]

Not sure I agree that UK Hunters are always all they are cracked up to be.

I sailed a bilge keel Horizon 26' for several years in the Irish Sea and did some things that were, on reflection, pushing the envelope (ie a bit [--word removed--] mad).

The boat physically took the abuse without any problems. In light air and flat water she was fast and slippery and went to windward like a dream.

However, she was very tender in rough water and gusty conditions and had to be sailed very free. When hit by gusts she would round-up viciously, stalling the rudder and in extreme circumstances, stopping dead with sails shaking. For round the cans racing - great. For short handed fighting off a lee shore - hopeless.

I would be interested to hear the experiences of others with this boat. It has to be said that the main was knackered which probably did not help.

 

[Marsupial]

Mirage bilge keelers will sail around ANY other bilge keeler - BUT they are a bit old now. The term bilge keel in respect of the Mirage is wrong its a twin keel. The best was the 29 or 30.5 (the same boat). The 2700 is worth a look. The other plus for the Mirage is that it could take the ground without breaking unlike many other designs.

Another one to look at is the Jaguar 25 they lasted well on the sands and sailed well.