Where is "Sowt Sarah"?

[JumbleDuck]

Perhaps each area should be pronounced by speakers local to those areas so we get the most accurate possible pronunciation?

That would be fun in SW Scotland: Forces Yin, Twaa, Three, Fower ...

 

[Vallich]

What the hell is wrong with Rachel Burden.

Never heard of her before but sounds perfectly Ok in couple of clips I've found

Please excuse this (very) temporary thread hijack Jerrytug.

Google 'Rachel Burden awful voice' for +- comments but personally I find her screachy high-low voice and her habit of taking a large, noisy gulp of air before each sentence, rather annoying. Apart from that her interviewing skills aren't very good either.

 

[jerrytug]

Please excuse this (very) temporary thread hijack Jerrytug.

Google 'Rachel Burden awful voice' for +- comments but personally I find her screachy high-low voice and her habit of taking a large, noisy gulp of air before each sentence, rather annoying. Apart from that her interviewing skills aren't very good either.

Feel free to hijack it and fly it to Cuba

 

[Vallich]

Then with your permission:

Fit like, foo y'ah deein? Here's the wither forecast. Vykin', Noarth Ootseera, Sooth Ootseera - buckettin' doon ah day basically! Foarties, Croamarty nay s'bad as aroon Edinburgh far it's gyan t'be freezin cahl wee a fair bitty oh rain in ah! Mind ye, you folk thit bide in Ingland will nae doot hae worse wither thin us up here in Aeberdeen, bit ye deserve it kis wee've hid nithin bit rain fir weeks ye ken. I cannah mine the rest oh it, bit tahk care oot theyr far ever ye are.



Slow day at work for me...

 

[KevB]

Anyone who wants to hear what all the fuss is about can find an example of Neil Nunes reading the shipping forecast at

https://soundcloud.com/jb_uk/neil-nunes-bbc-radio-4-and

It sounds beautifully clear to me. The idea that it's a speech impediment or mickey-taking is ludicrous.

Sounds like he has a bad cold with a snotty nose.

 

[KenMcCulloch]

Perhaps each area should be pronounced by speakers local to those areas so we get the most accurate possible pronunciation?

What a great idea, the SF could start in Danish, then go through Scots, German, Geordie, Dutch, Norfolk, RP, French, Welsh, Irish and finish (not Finnish) in Icelandic.

For what it's worth I have always enjoyed listening to Neil Nunes although I preferred Charlotte Green. Those who find NN difficult to understand do not need a hearing specialist, but some other kind of intervention might be useful.

 

[jerrytug]

What a great idea, the SF could start in Danish, then go through Scots, German, Geordie, Dutch, Norfolk, RP, French, Welsh, Irish and finish (not Finnish) in Icelandic.

For what it's worth I have always enjoyed listening to Neil Nunes although I preferred Charlotte Green. Those who find NN difficult to understand do not need a hearing specialist, but some other kind of intervention might be useful.

What sort of 'intervention' might that be then? I'm all ears.

If you meant Smiley Culture, the Cockney Translator, he sadly passed away last year.

 

[westhinder]

Not being a native speaker, I have no difficulty in understanding the clip of Mr Nunes reading the shipping forecast. I do agree that the BBC has to keep up a standard, but Mr Nunes's accent does not present a problem in my ears.
Having circumnavigated Britain last year I quite enjoyed the various accents used by the Coastguard stations when broadcasting the weather forecast. But then I have always loved trying to understand the thickest accents and I must say that the variety of accents in Britain and Ireland is endless. In my experience, Northern Irish accents are hardest to understand. I quite liked the way a lady coastguard in Stornoway pronounced 'fower'. Not standard, but not a problem either.

 

[Sandgrounder]

Then with your permission:

Fit like, foo y'ah deein? Here's the wither forecast. Vykin', Noarth Ootseera, Sooth Ootseera - buckettin' doon ah day basically! Foarties, Croamarty nay s'bad as aroon Edinburgh far it's gyan t'be freezin cahl wee a fair bitty oh rain in ah! Mind ye, you folk thit bide in Ingland will nae doot hae worse wither thin us up here in Aeberdeen, bit ye deserve it kis wee've hid nithin bit rain fir weeks ye ken. I cannah mine the rest oh it, bit tahk care oot theyr far ever ye are.



Slow day at work for me...

Lovely

 

[Daydream believer]

I must say that I am delighted to see an attempt to start a racist sh*tstorm fail so comprehensively.

Problem is that for too long now some would treat the initial post as racist
At least we have begun to talk about it again. Perhaps we have ukip to thank for that
The matter needs discussion regardless of what some might think
But not on this forum i hasten to add

But rest assured, come the election, i would not vote ukip any more than i would vote labour

I am not racist ( well only against foreigners perhaps)

My post was just a wind up to see who crept out the woodwork first

 

[JumbleDuck]

Problem is that for too long now some would treat the initial post as racist

The original post was racist. It was the sort of casual racism that racists do when they think they are in the company of all-good-chap fellow racists. It probably plays well in some yacht club bars, UKIP branch meetings and, of course, The Lounge, but it's nice to see that it doesn't play here.

 

[jerrytug]

Problem is that for too long now some would treat the initial post as racist
At least we have begun to talk about it again. Perhaps we have ukip to thank for that
The matter needs discussion regardless of what some might think
But not on this forum i hasten to add

But rest assured, come the election, i would not vote ukip any more than i would vote labour

I am not racist ( well only against foreigners perhaps)

My post was just a wind up to see who crept out the woodwork first

It certainly succeeded DB, hook, line and sinker!

 

[elton]

The original post was racist. It was the sort of casual racism that racists do when they think they are in the company of all-good-chap fellow racists. It probably plays well in some yacht club bars, UKIP branch meetings and, of course, The Lounge, but it's nice to see that it doesn't play here.

If anything, posts like yours fuel racism.

How do you know the OP even knew NN is a negro? Many of the respondents seem to believe he sounds English

 

[JumbleDuck]

If anything, posts like yours fuel racism.

And how do you work that one out? Pointing out racism is not fuelling it.

How do you know the OP even knew NN is a negro? Many of the respondents seem to believe he sounds English

"Negro"? Really?

 

[elton]

And how do you work that one out? Pointing out racism is not fuelling it.

Because racism was neither expressed nor implied.

"Negro"? Really?

Well he's not Caucasian, is he? What is he?

I'm Caucasian btw.

 

[bromleybysea]

Because racism was neither expressed nor implied.


Well he's not Caucasian, is he? What is he?

I'm Caucasian btw.

The terms "negro" and "Caucasian" are regarded by many people as inherently racist. They are not used by any modern human biologists, geneticists or ethnographers and are essentially meaningless. They have their origin in attempts by previous generations to categorise people into racial groups for essentially political reasons. The world has changed. Adapt and move on.

 

[Coaster]

The terms "negro" and "Caucasian" are regarded by many people as inherently racist. They are not used by any modern human biologists, geneticists or ethnographers and are essentially meaningless. They have their origin in attempts by previous generations to categorise people into racial groups for essentially political reasons. The world has changed. Adapt and move on.

Interesting.

What have the terms been replaced by?

I was taught them at school and have these word s for decades. If some people find them hurtful, or otherwise unacceptable, gentle guidance on the alternatives would be very welcome.

 

[bromleybysea]

Interesting.

What have the terms been replaced by?

I was taught them at school and have these word s for decades. If some people find them hurtful, or otherwise unacceptable, gentle guidance on the alternatives would be very welcome.

Even though I live in one of the most ethnically diverse boroughs in London and until retirement worked in the public sector with colleagues and clients that reflected that diversity, I never felt the need to use anachronistic racial descriptors such as Negro and Caucasian. I guess if I had to describe someone with similar heritage to Mr Nune I would have said "Black" or "Afro-Carribbean" or "Trinidadian". Best policy is to use the descriptor that people use about themselves. That's just good manners. But generally I think it best to avoid putting our fellow human beings into categories of any sort.

 

[Coaster]

...But generally I think it best to avoid putting our fellow human beings into categories of any sort.

I agree.

That's why I dislike the concept of racism.

I try to be race blind, and to deal with people as they are rather than judging them by general background.

Presumably racism cannot exist for anyone that espouses this principle.

I'm quite convinced that each time 'racism' is mentioned it drives another wedge between people.

 

[JumbleDuck]

I'm quite convinced that each time 'racism' is mentioned it drives another wedge between people.

That's the attitude which goes on to say that the Lawrence family should have shut up and accepted what happened to them.