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AvidiusCassius

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Dear Readers,


I am 18 years old and have recently received my first boat as a present from my grandfather. It is going to be a bit of a family/friends project. It's currently in a reasonable state, however, it is engineless and still requires some renovation. While my grandad and friends are sorting out the DIY side of the vessel, I have been tasked with buying relevent equipment online.

I was wondering if anyone on this forum would be able to identify the exact type of boat this is. While my family have had boats before, this exact model is a mystery to all of us. We live in a small seaside community and boats change hands regularly here, so it's not unusual for this kind of information to disappear.

I have included links to the photos below:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_w5oybRWAqWTFVtOFJRSW1jcUU/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_w5oybRWAqWYTh6WDNtWFVJVkE/view?usp=sharing

Thank you in advanced for looking at this post and helping me out :)
 
AvidiusCassius said:
I have been tasked with buying relevent equipment online.

I was wondering if anyone on this forum would be able to identify the exact type of boat this is.
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Looks like John has some ideas. I'm just chiming in to point out that buying equipment for boats (especially older ones) isn't like buying car parts. There aren't stocks of spares for particular boats, a lot more stuff is off-the-shelf (applicable to lots of different boats) or made to order. If you want to fit something like an anchor winch or a bilge pump, you go looking for whatever bit of kit you think will fit and work best, not whatever the original manufacturer would have fitted in the 70s.

If there's an engine with it then you'll probably find parts for that (search on the engine model, not the boat). But knowing the model of the boat is an item of minor interest only, it won't help you search for bits.

Good luck with the project - sounds fun :)

Pete
 
I don't know what it is, but I do know that it isn't a Shetland 535 as has been suggested. The hull shape of the 535 is quite different.

However, as prv pointed out, it doesn't much matter what make/model it is, you'll be buying parts which are a suitable size or spec for your boat.
 
"relevant equipment". If you list the stuff for which you are looking, some of the techncal bods will be able to give precise advice.


Looks a fun boat, and refurbing it is the best way to gain knowledge and confidence.
 
pvb said:
I don't know what it is, but I do know that it isn't a Shetland 535 as has been suggested. The hull shape of the 535 is quite different.

However, as prv pointed out, it doesn't much matter what make/model it is, you'll be buying parts which are a suitable size or spec for your boat.
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Yes you are right, it is similar but not a 535, hull
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OK, I now know what it is. It's a Marina 16GT or 17GT (the two are almost indistinguishable). Built by Marina Boats Ltd in Warwickshire in the 60s and 70s.

I'm attaching an advert from the period, the more eagle-eyed readers may be intrigued to see who exactly it was who gave the glowing testimonial "In my experience there is no more seaworthy craft in this size range." :rolleyes:

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pvb said:
OK, I now know what it is. It's a Marina 16GT or 17GT (the two are almost indistinguishable). Built by Marina Boats Ltd in Warwickshire in the 60s and 70s.

I'm attaching an advert from the period, the more eagle-eyed readers may be intrigued to see who exactly it was who gave the glowing testimonial "In my experience there is no more seaworthy craft in this size range." :rolleyes:

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Well spotted! must have a word in his ear when i see him:rolleyes:
 
I used a Shetland 535 a few time off the Algarve/Spanish coast. Had a 70hp main and a 5hp 'get you home' Worked fine & not over powered. Not a lot different to yours and quite fun.
 
Ok cool. Think I will invest in a small 4/5hp engine just to give my family some piece of mind if I'm going out alone or with friends. We have a family friend who fixes up boats in his workshop at the local boatyard, and I reckon he's going to sort us out with a 40hp or 50hp, so I think that will work well for a main.

Once again thank you everyone for all the assistance. As this is my first boat I think I made need to turn to these forums for some guidances every now and then. :)
 
AvidiusCassius said:
Think I will invest in a small 4/5hp engine just to give my family some piece of mind if I'm going out alone or with friends. We have a family friend who fixes up boats in his workshop at the local boatyard, and I reckon he's going to sort us out with a 40hp or 50hp, so I think that will work well for a main.
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Good call on the backup engine. I guess you'll be going with whatever's available, but do have a think about the fuel - if your main engine is a 2-stroke and you have fifty litres of pre-mix on board, a 4-stroke backup isn't going to be able to use it. With that combination you'd have to be careful to keep at least some un-mixed petrol on board.

Other way round you can mix up if needed, and of course the ideal is both engines on the same stuff.

Pete
 
One of the problems with this kind of boat is that it is easy to drive too fast when the wind comes up and the waves get a bit choppy. The pounding of the under hull can cause real damage over time. Check under the floor as it may need repair or beefing up. This pounding will dictate the limit of how fast it is driven so only on perfectly flat water can you go fast. Other wise all the extra horse power is wasted. We note from, the ad that max HP is 65.
Don't forget to fit a VHF radio and EPIRB with GPS and a GPS to get you home if it comes down foggy. Plus fire extinguisher, anchor and bucket. Do wear life jackets. olewill
 
William_H said:
One of the problems with this kind of boat is that it is easy to drive too fast when the wind comes up and the waves get a bit choppy. The pounding of the under hull can cause real damage over time. Check under the floor as it may need repair or beefing up. This pounding will dictate the limit of how fast it is driven so only on perfectly flat water can you go fast. Other wise all the extra horse power is wasted. We note from, the ad that max HP is 65.
Don't forget to fit a VHF radio and EPIRB with GPS and a GPS to get you home if it comes down foggy. Plus fire extinguisher, anchor and bucket. Do wear life jackets. olewill
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It really depends on where you plan to use it. 40hp on the norfolk broads for instance will bring you a lot of pain from the authorities, as it will on most rivers. Boats of this age often have rotten cockpit soles, A friend had to replace the "shuttering ply" floor on his Sheltie.

I'd not use something of this size offshore, just in coastal waters. +1 for the remark regarding choppy seas. Certainly get a GPS and charts for the local area; the Imray ones are "waterproof". I"m not a big fan of H/H VHF but they are "cheap". Range is limited, which isn't too much of a problem in the Solent with three tall CG masts, but not everywhere is so well served. If you can get one with a 5W output (mine is 3) it will be better and there's a limit to how high you could mount the antenna for a ship radio on your wee boat. As for the Epirb, a PLB would probably be cheaper and good enough for coasting.
 
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