starboard
Active member
I looked in last night and it opened on a porn site...!!!! I thought that said something about Moody owners.....yes be very carefull as it tried to download a virus checker to me to!!!
WARNING for Moody Owners
- Thread starter AntarcticPilot
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pvb
Well-known member
The "moodyowners.org.uk" address is registered to Charles Bond-Smith, who is/was a Moody owner ("Rafiki") and one of your members. Might be worth just letting him know, if you still have his contact details.
Phoenix of Hamble
Active member
Well, am I the only one who thinks that answer really quite rude?
Antartic Pilot pointed out a problem you have, and you acused him of spreading false information.
Your grounds for this statements are that the correct URL is OK and virus clean, so all is OK..... but you are ignoring the fact that what appears to be a perfectly valid URL, and indeed one that many would trust in preference to a .net domain is malicious, and therefore many potential visitors are at risk...
If it had been my site, I would have thanked him for letting me know, not accused him of scaremongering.... but hey... what do I know?
FWIW, on my machine Google gives the infected site as the first result, and had I not been informed otherwise, it would have been the first option I would have followed....
Antartic Pilot pointed out a problem you have, and you acused him of spreading false information.
Your grounds for this statements are that the correct URL is OK and virus clean, so all is OK..... but you are ignoring the fact that what appears to be a perfectly valid URL, and indeed one that many would trust in preference to a .net domain is malicious, and therefore many potential visitors are at risk...
If it had been my site, I would have thanked him for letting me know, not accused him of scaremongering.... but hey... what do I know?
FWIW, on my machine Google gives the infected site as the first result, and had I not been informed otherwise, it would have been the first option I would have followed....
MoodySabre
Well-known member
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The org.uk is the one that comes up first in a google search. However when you click on it, it transfers you to the http://www.moodyowners.net/ site.
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Not on my computer it don't Brendan. It's a malware site that you can't get away from.
The org.uk is the one that comes up first in a google search. However when you click on it, it transfers you to the http://www.moodyowners.net/ site.
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Not on my computer it don't Brendan. It's a malware site that you can't get away from.
BrendanS
Well-known member
As andymcp says, it could be that it's recent, and not all DNS servers have got the new redirect location yet, as it still redirects correctly for me.
starboard
Active member
Morgana....I concur with you on that...AP was trying to warn others of a potential problem and got slagged for it....I to was directed to it from the first search result on Google!!!
Mariner69
New member
FWIW I agree with post.
Adaero
New member
Well said.
I thought the Moody webmaster was well out of order and should come back and apologise to someone who was trying to do him a favour.
I thought the Moody webmaster was well out of order and should come back and apologise to someone who was trying to do him a favour.
NeilE
New member
From the MOA Webmaster
Thank you all for your observations, some of which have actually been helpful
My investigations are these - if you actually type the addresses into your menu bar instead of going through Google et al
www.moodyowners.net is fine - it is the main MOA site and is not infected
www.moodyowners.org.uk is fine and is redirected to www.moodyowners.net (as a way of explanation, this was the original MOA site which was phased out when we went to the current design)
www.moodyowners.org is not used and nothing to do with us
www.moodyboats.com is a site hosted by Hanse Yachts and nothing to do with us - it also works fine.
As to the search engines - well it seems that if you click on .org.uk seems to have some kind of attack via Yahoo - I did not get that from Google, but no doubt it can only be a matter of time.
I will attempt to report this abuse to the appropriate search engines of course.
So the original report is still wrong, the sites are not infected, what has happened is that the search engines have been hijacked - a very different problem. Still serious though
Kindest
Neil
Thank you all for your observations, some of which have actually been helpful
My investigations are these - if you actually type the addresses into your menu bar instead of going through Google et al
www.moodyowners.net is fine - it is the main MOA site and is not infected
www.moodyowners.org.uk is fine and is redirected to www.moodyowners.net (as a way of explanation, this was the original MOA site which was phased out when we went to the current design)
www.moodyowners.org is not used and nothing to do with us
www.moodyboats.com is a site hosted by Hanse Yachts and nothing to do with us - it also works fine.
As to the search engines - well it seems that if you click on .org.uk seems to have some kind of attack via Yahoo - I did not get that from Google, but no doubt it can only be a matter of time.
I will attempt to report this abuse to the appropriate search engines of course.
So the original report is still wrong, the sites are not infected, what has happened is that the search engines have been hijacked - a very different problem. Still serious though
Kindest
Neil
graham
Well-known member
The man tries to help you sort a potential problem for folk trying to find your site..Bet he wishes he hadnt bothered now .
BlueSkyNick
Active member
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As to the search engines - well it seems that if you click on .org.uk seems to have some kind of attack via Yahoo - I did not get that from Google, but no doubt it can only be a matter of time.
[/ QUOTE ]Neil, I did get the dodgy site up first on Google, via Firefox.
I agree it seems to be a search engine problem but nonetheless pleased that it has been highlighted, as potential new members could get screwed (almost literally!) without even getting to our site.
As to the search engines - well it seems that if you click on .org.uk seems to have some kind of attack via Yahoo - I did not get that from Google, but no doubt it can only be a matter of time.
[/ QUOTE ]Neil, I did get the dodgy site up first on Google, via Firefox.
I agree it seems to be a search engine problem but nonetheless pleased that it has been highlighted, as potential new members could get screwed (almost literally!) without even getting to our site.
Unfortunately all this chatter about the doodgy site will only help to persuade Google's engine that it is very popular and hence keep the site at the top of the list.
The lowly ranking of the new official site is because the site's owner did not think through the implication of the URL rebranding.
The lowly ranking of the new official site is because the site's owner did not think through the implication of the URL rebranding.
webcraft
Well-known member
Google uses three separate databases which can give different results, particularly during a major update.
I can confirm that earlier this evening typing Moody Owners into Google as a search term brought up the infected .org site first, therefore to say it is nothing to do with you is a bit of a copout. You may not own the domain but your members were at risk therefore it became your problem. However, the site now appears to have been taken down, so the problem has vanished.
No-one is immune to their web server being compromised, so I wouldn't be too smugly outraged at the suggestion that one of your sites could be infected - it happens sometimes to the most meticulously maintained websites, and is not always obvious.
- W
I can confirm that earlier this evening typing Moody Owners into Google as a search term brought up the infected .org site first, therefore to say it is nothing to do with you is a bit of a copout. You may not own the domain but your members were at risk therefore it became your problem. However, the site now appears to have been taken down, so the problem has vanished.
No-one is immune to their web server being compromised, so I wouldn't be too smugly outraged at the suggestion that one of your sites could be infected - it happens sometimes to the most meticulously maintained websites, and is not always obvious.
- W
BrendanS
Well-known member
Google is still showing .org.uk as number one for a search on moody owners.
A while after my last post, it did redirect to a asian wife finder site which attempted to download some software, but my computer was locked down in preperation, and the attempt failed, but now is redirecting correctly again (just checked in last couple of minutes) so all a bit strange.
To be fair, the .org.uk site is outside his control, as it's purely a site which redirects to the official site, or at least appears to be.
A while after my last post, it did redirect to a asian wife finder site which attempted to download some software, but my computer was locked down in preperation, and the attempt failed, but now is redirecting correctly again (just checked in last couple of minutes) so all a bit strange.
To be fair, the .org.uk site is outside his control, as it's purely a site which redirects to the official site, or at least appears to be.
paulrossall
New member
We don't normally get people on this site who are just plain rude to folk who have tried to be helpfull. Arcticpilot was trying to be helpfull.
You and your kind deserve all the trouble that the internet can throw at you.
Did your parents never teach you to say THANK YOU??????
You and your kind deserve all the trouble that the internet can throw at you.
Did your parents never teach you to say THANK YOU??????
BrendanS
Well-known member
I'm very aware of how and why it happens. In this case, it's not following a normal pattern, so unless we hear from the owner of the site in question, we won't know exactly what has happened. It's not a search engine problem, but some sort of redirect on the .org.uk page which is not seeming to be consistent.
alan_d
Well-known member
Brendan - I replied to you out of convenience (well I had to reply to somebody). The link was not specifically intended for you but it seemed to me that some of the contributors to and readers of this thread might find the BBC article illuminating. Sorry if you felt I was trying to teach my granny etc. etc.
Alan
Alan
BrendanS
Well-known member
I'm all for illuminating the readers of these forums of how they can fall foul of various tricks. See pm, no hard feelings I assure you!
PeteCooper
Well-known member
Yet another good reason for not joining the Moody Owner's Association!