Unsinkable... so was the Titanic... etaps et al....

[Alfie168]

Amidst all the banter there is a serious point to be made (sorry, it won't happen again)

If Ouzo had been an Etap there would have been an increased chance of survivors. No guarantee of course, just an increased chance.

Tim

 

[vyv_cox]

This is the one. Called Dorothy Hackforth (named after a local councillor apparently, not a name to set the pulses racing)

You couldn't accuse her of being sailable but she's definitely afloat. The smaller Sadlers, 29 and especially 26, have a higher bouancy ratio and float far higher.

 

[jwilson]

I don't think Sadlers ever even claimed the 34 was unsinkable, although from the pictures here they clearly were. The foam was just there to stiffen/insulate the hull. The smaller ones were definitely sailable when swamped.

 

[vyv_cox]

I think they did. I have all the sales brochures: they are entitled 'The Unsinkable Sadlers".

 

[Sixpence]

Have to admit, that is pretty impressive. Somehow I can't imagine either of mine still floating with a hole like that.

 

[pyrojames]

There was a large "unsinkable" sloop which hit a reef and was severely damaged in the Red Sea some years ago. It made it to port without sinking. I wouldn't say it was very seaworthy near the end, but it did get back. It was in YM IIRC.

 

[bedouin]

It seems to be just about floating without its rig. The additional weight of the rig, along with a few more kgs of equipment and it would be under.

Perhaps rather than worrying about being truely "unsinkable" we should think more about waterproof bulkheads. It would not take much at build time to construct a boat with at least two water-tight bulkheads, say the one to the forecabin so that a hole in the bows was not critical, and another at the rear of the saloon level with the end of the coachroof.

 

[Bajansailor]

I agree with you re watertight bulkheads.
Commercial passenger vessels are required to have them - even the Victoria 34s used by (what used to be?) the Joint Services folk have a watertight bulkhead going forward from the saloon.
Yet there are many large yachts with no form of watertight subdivision at all.

 

[DJE]

Hmm.. How much of that two to three tons of gear would be denser than water? If it's average density was the same as water then the bouyancy wouldn't be affected.

 

[Oldhand]

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DOH !! yeah lol...

BUT.. that was a floating tea trolly.. not a real boat... no keel... Jeeeeeeeeeeez, Chrizzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.............. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Illiterate language is no substitute for knowledge....... suggest you study Etap's designs more thouroughly before you you voice your opinions.

 

[jeremyshaw]

Good point about the bulkheads. There is a course a type of yacht which is routinely built with watertight bulkheads fore and aft. It's called a catamaran...but let's not start that one off!

 

[bigwow]

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Good point about the bulkheads. There is a course a type of yacht which is routinely built with watertight bulkheads fore and aft. It's called a catamaran...but let's not start that one off!

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I already have.
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[Dipper]

After the accident, she was repaired to a high standard by the Sadler yard. I saw her today - now thankfully renamed.

 

[Whitelighter]

Thats it. Blimey - ther are cameras every where...

 

[saltwater_gypsy]

Is it possible that Captainslarty has ground to a halt with his incredible cabin re-vamp and is now perusing other boating options????? Photos of progress are required!!!!

 

[kengill]

They still all float!

 

[captainslarty]

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Hi Gypsy

lol, no, just got back from the uk, am having a weeks holiday (read REST) after that trip.. starts again tomorrow .. all seating is redone, port n starboard, new centre cabin - now a full double.. no interior steering..
Just got all the teak planks for the trim..

4 planks of 2.5mtrs long by 250 mm by 15 mm... 100 euros !!!.. cheaper than marine ply..

Joe

 

[captainslarty]

ullo oldhand ... the tea trolly is not a reference to etaps.... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I am voicing a question, with a slight opinion.. so, tell me what reserve buoyancy they have realistically ?.

 

[WindFinder]

I presume he's sent his missus below to put a brew on!

 

[captainslarty]

Well, I have looked at their website and must confess cannot see any reference to reserve buoyancy at all ??

Joe