penfold
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Makes a change from ramming piers.
UK’s biggest warship suffers propeller shaft damage off south coast after setting sail for US
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Giblets
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She's come in to offload "stores" as well as locking the shaft prior to her trip oop norf. Can one assume the "stores" might the the noisey, bangey things? I wouldn't think Rosyth dry dock would be too keen on working on a fully armed ship.
Kukri
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She's come in to offload "stores" as well as locking the shaft prior to her trip oop norf. Can one assume the "stores" might the the noisey, bangey things? I wouldn't think Rosyth dry dock would be too keen on working on a fully armed ship.
Yes; standard operating procedure for dry docking warships includes de-storing all ammunition before docking.
I don’t know if this can be done at Portsmouth or whether she has to visit the Clyde for this.
HMS Queen Elizabeth arrives on the Clyde to embark munitions | Navy Lookout
I was a partner in a merchant ship crew training operation which we set up on the former ammunition pier at Subic Bay, in the Philippines : it was ideal as it had been built to take super carriers, it was miles from anywhere and surrounded by jungle and it had deep water for free fall lifeboats etc.
capnsensible
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Back in the day, the Clyde Submarine Base had AFD60. Fondly known as Monty Pythons Floating Dock.
The guys who ran it...uniformed....were fantastic. We would arrive home after a patrol for routine docking after x time. Offload torpedoes. My job, a busy time. Then into the dock. Lifted, maintain and repair, dockdown and refloat, back alongside and re embark weapons. The weather was....mc Scotland. I enjoyed every second!!!!
capnsensible
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For not carriers, Pompey has the Upper Harbor Ammunition Facilty just up the Creek. Involves a cold move with tugs. Again, back in my very younger day on a skimmer, we Would have to use a lot of manpower on Fountain Lake Jetty to embark lots of bang stuff.
SaltIre
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No. Noisy bangy things don't get offloaded between Portsmouth and Gosport. That gets done in Scotland, where the population is expendible. See #207:She's come in to offload "stores" as well as locking the shaft prior to her trip oop norf. Can one assume the "stores" might the the noisey, bangey things? I wouldn't think Rosyth dry dock would be too keen on working on a fully armed ship.
Secret Scotland - Crombie Munitions DepotCan ordnance not be unloaded at DM Crombie which is three miles up-river from Rosyth Naval Dockyard?
They might just leave the munition on board in Rosyth. A big bang might improve it - I used to live there...
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Bouba
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The Scots might be taking the risks...but it’s the English who have to pay for the explosives....so be careful!
Bilgediver
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Not sure if she can squeeze in there and if so its possible her flight deck would overhang the narrow pier. Both ships went up to the Crombie area prior to departure so they were out in the stream ready to pass under the rail bridge at the right moment. Both ships have hinged masts to give clearance which wasn't much
Video shows tight squeeze under Forth Bridges as HMS Queen Elizabeth returns
SaltIre
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If you are referring to PS Waverley, she didn't ram Brodick Peir. Arran was at fault - it had been moved!
SaltIre
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Maybe she will indeed go to
Glen Mallon - then through either the Caley or F&C Canal.The pier at Glen Mallon got modified to accommodate them...
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Bilgediver
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Very easy to ram a pier with a paddle steamer as a certain mate that trained on our ships found out when let loose on one of the White Funnel ships in the Bristol Channel. Penarth Pier became a little shorter. The paddlers have no steerage at low speed so often there are interesting moments if things are not right at slow down time. They have to stop within heaving line distance!
Kukri
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Maybe she will indeed go to
The pier at Glen Mallon got modified to accommodate them...
The ammunition pier at Glen Mallon was modified to take the Ugly Sisters but nothing was done to arrange a practical dry dock for them and the contract went to Babcocks although the ships need to get under this every time:
and the UKC in the approach is 50 centimetres.
This looks like corruption in Naval procurement.
Bouba
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It’s got Broon’s fingerprints all over it..
Kukri
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We know about how they got built - the maintenance contract is much more recent.
penfold
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Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
harry potter
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It was the pilot's fault.You've left off the possibility it might be something less embarrassing, like a chinese Buster Crabb wrapped around the prop shaft.
Kukri
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This picture seems appropriate here:
Poignard
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What a great picture, Kukri.
Frogmogman
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+1. Superb.
Kukri
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Not mine!
Isle of Wight County Press!
“The oldest working seagoing paddle steamer Waverley passes by the newest, not working, warship, HMS Prince of Wales, off the Isle of Wight yesterday. Thanks to Chris Glover for this fantastic photo”