UK’s biggest warship suffers propeller shaft damage off south coast after setting sail for US

[LittleSister]

So, almost 500 posts in and I think we have a rare Forum consensus that the problem wasn't the lobster pot playfully suggested by the OP.

I am impressed, too, by the amusements and wealth of useless but entertaining facts (not least about Suffolk cheese), and not a few important lessons, that have been sported along the way.

Thank you to all contributors. A great example of the value of this Forum.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

So, almost 500 posts in and I think we have a rare Forum consensus that the problem wasn't the lobster pot playfully suggested by the OP.

I am impressed, too, by the amusements and wealth of useless but entertaining facts (not least about Suffolk cheese), and not a few important lessons, that have been sported along the way.

Thank you to all contributors. A great example of the value of this Forum.

Lobster pot…. If it was, I don’t fancy meeting the lobsters it's designed to catch.

 

[Bouba]

Well, I’ve followed the argument and my feeling is that the steam turbines are going to give an instant massive force...from zero to full speed to full reverse instantly....and this thirty plus ton prop is going to remain stationary for a split second before moving...and that oh so long shaft will torsion a lot..and it will be visible in the engine room...where only a small part of the shaft lives

 

[capnsensible]

Been watching on and off this afternoon (between overs in a cricket match) HMS Queen Elizabeth arriving in New York Harbour and anchoring off.

And HMS Richmond zipping up the river to an alongside berth. Bet I know who's happiest.

 

[Bouba]

Been watching on and off this afternoon (between overs in a cricket match) HMS Queen Elizabeth arriving in New York Harbour and anchoring off.

And HMS Richmond zipping up the river to an alongside berth. Bet I know who's happiest.

Did she get the full fire tug welcome?

 

[capnsensible]

Did she get the full fire tug welcome?

Not that I could see.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

Did she get the full fire tug welcome?

Jolly Jack and his mates will be looking for that a bit later.

 

[Bilgediver]

Jolly Jack and his mates will be looking for that a bit later.

Tugs to busy keeping up so they catch any prop and shaft that falls off

 

[Bouba]

Ok...for those that were upset that the new carriers can only fly the less capable B version of the F35... a new engine upgrade might be available from GE that could seriously improve the aircrafts performance (like going from a Volvo to a Cummins)
XA100 Next Generation Adaptive Engine Could Now Power F-35B, Too

 

[Just_sayin']

Current plans are for 'HMS Prince of Wales' to depart Portsmouth on Monday at 17:55 bound for Rosyth. Tug 'Njord Viking' is scheduled to arrive from Montrose tomorrow afternoon (Sunday) and will drop anchor at St Helens Anchorage. She will most likely remain at the Anchorage and escort the carrier from there on Monday evening.


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[Sandy]

I don't doubt there was a "foolproof" system in place unfortunately there were at least two people one of which was the pilot that ignored it.

I'm a bit late to the party on this due to a lot of travel in the last 10 days.

Welcome to the world that I used to work in, Safety Engineering.

We would take a product or system and think of everything that would go wrong, could go wrong, might go wrong or might conceivably go wrong devise a series of tests then test it again and again until we were happy that the thing was safe and somebody would take it to a 'star chamber' where the work was peer reviewed and having passed that finally signed off. Only then did we swallow hard and see what actually did go wrong in the field.

It was always interesting to investigate a 'failure', these are meticulous tasks looking at every aspect of component and process. All time consuming and geeky especially if their was a fatality or serious injury.

You will be surprised how many incidents are caused by highly trained, very professional people who are extremely careful. The affect on them is often traumatising. Especially when they saw me and my team arrive to investigate an event and talk through what had happened.

Once an investigation was concluded what happened to the people was outside our control - that was for others to decide - what we learnt was fed back into the design loop to ensure that we could reduce the hazard level.

 

[Bilgediver]

Current plans are for 'HMS Prince of Wales' to depart Portsmouth on Monday at 17:55 bound for Rosyth. Tug 'Njord Viking' is scheduled to arrive from Montrose tomorrow afternoon (Sunday) and will drop anchor at St Helens Anchorage. She will most likely remain at the Anchorage and escort the carrier from there on Monday evening.


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Dredgers busy cleaning up the Rosyth channel Just in case?

 

[Spirit (of Glenans)]

ISTM RN vessels of earlier generations seem to have been made of sterner stuff.......and there were more of them!

 

[Sandy]

ISTM RN vessels of earlier generations seem to have been made of sterner stuff.......and there were more of them!

Whatever gave you that idea?

 

[penfold]

There were more of them so the broken ones weren't as missed, they broke or needed maintenance intervals just as much (if not more as steam plant is more maintenance heavy than diesel or gas turbines).

 

[capnsensible]

Dredgers busy cleaning up the Rosyth channel Just in case?

In case the Waverley is out with tourists?

 

[Bilgediver]

In case the Waverley is out with tourists?

Waverley is fine in a rainwater puddle ???

 

[Just_sayin']

The tug has arrived

 

[Bouba]

The carriers are designed to operate on one screw...but it will always take a tug to get to Scotland....I mean, wouldn’t you ?

 

[SaltyC]

In case the Waverley is out with tourists?

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