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That's the problem with them for someone like me that enjoyed offshore cruising where at times you will encounter difficult conditions that can last for a day and often more. My old boats and many other monos you could set the wind vane or autopilot and retreat out of the weather, it sounds like even if dropping your speed on a trip you have to hand steer, that for even a two handed cruising couple would be extremely difficult and ultimately not possible. So for me as a cruising yachtsman they begin to fall into very fast coastal cruisers admittedly where the coast can be 200 miles away and weather routing and accessibility being paramount. Interesting though.
It is possible to hand steer with a couple on long ocean voyages. Been there, done that. You get used to it after the first week or so.
 

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It is possible to hand steer with a couple on long ocean voyages. Been there, done that. You get used to it after the first week or so.
Yes with a crew but in 2 or 3 days of heavy weather either single handed or just two fatigue would set in quickly and that's when mistakes are made. If like a mono a try Maran such as we are talking about can safely lie ahull or better still hove too then yes but I am not so sure they can.
As said I speak from no real knowledge and my posts are more enquiries rather than offering any sort of opinion or knowledge but I am coming to the conclusion that they are limited in terms of long distance offshore cruising capability as I posted earlier but within those limitations they would be fun and have a place.
 

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Yes with a crew but in 2 or 3 days of heavy weather either single handed or just two fatigue would set in quickly and that's when mistakes are made. If like a mono a try Maran such as we are talking about can safely lie ahull or better still hove too then yes but I am not so sure they can.
As said I speak from no real knowledge and my posts are more enquiries rather than offering any sort of opinion or knowledge but I am coming to the conclusion that they are limited in terms of long distance offshore cruising capability as I posted earlier but within those limitations they would be fun and have a place.
Mrs S and I sailed from Gib to the Canaries with two of us and a broken autopilot. 4 up for the crossing including Cape Verdes pit stop and mostly 2 of us for a six month tour of the Windies and Bahamas. Several unsuccessful attempts at repairs, but wasn't really too bothered. From Bermuda to Azores, 4 people. Azores to Gib in some fairly bad weather, just us 2.

We are really good at steering.

For second circuit, just us 2......and a hydrovane!
 

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Yes with a crew but in 2 or 3 days of heavy weather either single handed or just two fatigue would set in quickly and that's when mistakes are made. If like a mono a try Maran such as we are talking about can safely lie ahull or better still hove too then yes but I am not so sure they can.
As said I speak from no real knowledge and my posts are more enquiries rather than offering any sort of opinion or knowledge but I am coming to the conclusion that they are limited in terms of long distance offshore cruising capability as I posted earlier but within those limitations they would be fun and have a place.
Many large trimarans have sailed round the world solo on autopilot all the way - some 100 foot plus flying on hydrofoils at 30-40 knots through southern ocean whilst skipper asleep.

But probably not using a useless autohelm tiller pilot :)
 

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Many large trimarans have sailed round the world solo on autopilot all the way - some 100 foot plus flying on hydrofoils at 30-40 knots through southern ocean whilst skipper asleep.

But probably not using a useless autohelm tiller pilot :)
All the bigger DFs, Neel and Rapido tris are wheel steered and can have powerful autohelms. That, and linked wind instruments gives what is needed. If it’s really bad, the usual practice is to stream a drogue. But even our baby would cope fine with tradewind conditions. I’d have my sails built a little differently though and would give thought to carrying a smaller, heavier symmetrical spinnaker.
 

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Thought you might be interested! Reading the link, the idea seems to be to make tris more comfortable over extended periods to live on and retain performance for tri fans.

I put a link on the multihull thread about cats taking over the ARC that also talks about short handed sailing performance.

Wouldn't it be nice to have that kind of wonga!!
Well I’m at the arc marina and there are a few but then again to few to mention
 

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Whilst it’s interesting to see, I’m still not feeling the love for big offshore cruising tris. Race boats, sure. Coastal cruisers, usually folding for marina access, absolutely. A 30 ft cat is often dumpy and slow unless it’s got pencil thin hulls and no or low bridgedeck. But what does a Neel bring to the party that a cat doesn’t do better or cheaper? If there’s an answer to that I’d be happy to stand corrected.
 
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