Trader – does a leopard ever change it spots?

Gludy

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For those who follow the saga.

Now in week 6 of the repairs of Ocean Deep and bnasically they are not putting the resources into the boat and I have to be here every weekend to manage the project and check it all.

There was a flurry of promises and some jobs started but I will be lucky to have it right in 12 weeks let alone the 3 to 4 weeks promised.

I think hate might just be the best word to describe my feelings towards the owners of Trader - they are basically indifferent to customers and are just concerned with hunting the next victim. I have been silent in the hope that I could achieve progress without public pressure - give them another chance etc but it is simply not working out.

The new 42 has arrived here and I frankly just feel sorry for the next load of victims.

SWMBO had to throw all her clothes away last weekend as we discovered that the mold on them could not even be washed out - I took the drawer out to discover that there was no back to the cupboard and her clothes were simply left in the bilge atmosphere!!!! She is not a happy. bunny.

Over 90% of the jobs promised to be done in this last week have not been done. I am holding Trader responsible for all this lack of use and shall take legal action to ensure that every penny of my claim is pursued. Currently the cost to them of lack of use runs at £1500 per week but they do not seem to take any real notice of that.

The employees are good people. I have no axe to grind with them at all. The time is coming when I shall have to start the correspondence stream up again on the Ocean Deep site.
 
Paul,

I have followed this saga all the way and have not contributed in any way shape or form to date.........

However it was just this morning I was wondering how things were shaping up for you!

Well I wonder no more,my heart goes out to you mate as a fellow Welshman and all I can say is keep the pressure on and don't let the B%$£"RDS grind you down.

Sit down at 3.30pm with a good pint of beer and enjoy the rugby lets hope we can get some joy out of todays performance!

Good luck to you
Regards,Rob (Llanelli)
 
Paul,
I feel fo you, this has been an absolute nightmare from day one, I for one would never consider a trader, not after the way you have been treated.
Do they have any idea how bad a name they are making foir themselves? A lot of influential people read and contribute to this forum.
Colin.
 
Paul,

I really now think this boils down to money to invest in your problem, and they do not have much, I am on your side 100% but the catch 22 here is, if they do not sell more boats they will not have the funds to spend on your issues.

With all of this negative publicity no one in their right mind would buy one, and then their money will run out.

Unfortunatly for you, there is no easy answer..

Good luck.

Steve
 
Sorry to hear it's all going tits up again Paul , I really thought you'd got them sorted this time . Not a lot any of us can do in reality but there's no way I'd ever buy from that lot , I went out of my way to NOT even look at their stand at the boat show
 
Hi all - I,m new to this forum and hope you can help - we are looking to purchase a new boat - the TRADER 64 and i,m a bit concerned when I read your post - is this just a one off or are Tarquin Trader to be avoided - the problem is we like the look of the boat!!!
 
You haven't heard the start of it yet. Do a search for trader on here - they way they have treated Paul is absolutley abhorrant. His 575 was not fit for purpose when delivered, and Trader have done bugger all about fixing it since (well over a year).

I wouldn't through my money into one...
 
Hi paul you refer to a long standing problem but I cant find anything older than todays date please explain how I can read more of your problem so that i can understand it better - is this a problem with one person or the whole company
 
Hi glenndraper and welcome to the forum. You would do best asking Paul for his own opinion on this matter, maybe PM him and exchange telephone numbers.

Its not the wisest move to open up dialogue on here that may compromise Paul's ability to get recompense and redress. And it would also be useful (please don't take this the wrong way) to complete your biography. How do we know you aren't associated with Trader, or their lawyers, or something?
 
thanks so much for the links i have just read ALL of them - it has taken over 5 hrs to digest the problem - I would very much like to know if anyone else has had problems - I am wondering that as long as we hold back a reasonable amount untill AFTER receipt of boat if this would cover us???
 
Andy

thanks so much for the links i have just read ALL of them - it has taken over 5 hrs to digest the problem - I would very much like to know if anyone else has had problems - I am wondering that as long as we hold back a reasonable amount untill AFTER receipt of boat if this would cover us???
 
according to your profile you own a Fairline Squadron , so obviously you have a certain ammount of taste , why would you even consider buying a boat that's had such a bad write up ?
 
Dave - thanks for the heads up I have put some details about me on the page now - I can assure you that I am just a guy with 1.5 mil to spend on the right boat - we own a Fairline squadron 59 ft which we keep in costa del sol and we are looking to change to a REAL boat hence the TRADER 64 we have looked over the boat ( No. TWO) at Tarquin boat yard and I can only speak as I find - and that is VERY impressive !!!
By the sound of it Paul has had an awfull time of it and I can hardly believe the problems outlined - quite frankly I wonder if it is something personal between Paul and this man Chapple- It just does not make any commercial sence for Chapple to act this way - as you say it could be VERY damaging to his business sales. We shall be VERY carefull to ensure retention is held if we still go on to purchase
 
trevera - with respect it has only had a bad press from Paul - I would be very interested if anyone else had the sam or similar probs the only other thing that concerns me is that they have such a good name in the past but have the build quality gone to pot since being made by china????
 
Oh dear , don't stay long here , insanity is the end result /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif at least that's what the forum medical expert tells me is the reason I'm still here /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
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